This is awesome Peter - can you please explain this to Jimmy baby and Grandpa Xeno. They have been driving me nuts with their CBE (concept based enlightenment) intellectual masturbation. Perhaps take them aside, speak to them in your language - tmish, tmspeak or whatever the fuck you guys call it - please do your magic !!!
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:21 AM, drpsutphen <drpsutp...@yahoo.com> wrote: > ** > > > The value of all these different explanations of "Reality" is not in > creating a waking state model of what really, really, really is real, but > are conceptual tools for the intellect to facilitate a deeper understanding > of direct experience. Without the experience these concepts are useless at > best. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <richard@...> > wrote: > > > > > > Share Long: > > > ...have you ever encountered this idea about maya: > > > that in one stage of development it is a covering > > > of reality; in a more developed stage it is only a > > > veil giving rise to desire; and in a very developed > > > stage, maya is actually a means to ultimate reality. > > > > > Asking the important questions! > > > > It's a topic that is at the heart of MMY's TM practice, > > but it is also one of the most neglected aspects of > > SCI. > > > > It's way more advanced as a scripture - few here will > > probably understand that you have discovered the > > secret to the transcendental field. > > > > In fact, this notion, mentioned by MMY, is so totally > > indescribable that words fail to describe it. A few > > years ago when I posted reference to Isha, it was met > > by almost universal incomprehension - not a single > > comment. Go figure. > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/254695 > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/254695> > > > > 15. The face of Truth is covered with a brilliant golden > > lid; that do thou remove, O Fosterer, for the law of the > > Truth, for sight. > > > > Read more: > > > > 'Isha Upanishad' > > Translation by Sri Aurobindo > > Volume 17 of The Complete Works of Sri Aurobindo > > Sri Aurobindo Ashram Publications, 2003 > > http://tinyurl.com/pdpkyxc <http://tinyurl.com/pdpkyxc> > > > > Thread: Isa > > Subject: He that went abroad. > > Author: Willytex > > Newsforum: Yahoo! TMNews > > March 26, 2001 > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TMNEWS/message/2277 > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TMNEWS/message/2277> > > > > > sparaig: > > > > Interesting, as the people who knew SBS all said > > > > that MMY was basically channeling SBS whenever he > > > > spoke on such matters. > > > > > > > emptybill : > > > > > Maharishi's idea of the expansion of the "I" to > > > > > cosmic dimensions is not founded upon Shankara's > > > > Kevala Advaita but rather upon the teaching of > > > > Kashmiri Shaivism. > > > > > > > In a previous post emptybill couldn't believe > > > Shankara once visited Swat, Kamboja and Dabistan. > > > > > > LoL! > > > > > > So, what do we know about MMY's relation to Kashmere > > > Shaivism? > > > > > > Kashmir Shaivism is absolute idealist monism - > > > abhedha - non dualism, so that makes it similar to > > > Kevala Advaita. > > > > > > These terms describe the ultimate reality: Cit - > > > consciousness - the One and only reality. > > > > > > So, this sounds a lot like MMY and SCI, so it's no > > > wonder MMY was attracted to Laksmanjoo. > > > > > > But, unlike Kevala Avaita which postulates maya, > > > matter, as illusion, unreal - Kasmir Shaivism is > > > founded on the notion that Maya, matter is not > > > separated from consciousness, but is instead, > > > *identical* to it and real. > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_Shaivism > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_Shaivism> > > > > > > Kashmere Shaivism was exported to South Asia as > > > the Sri Vidya Tantrism. So, we when we realize > > > that Brahmanand Saraswati was a Sri Vidya adherent, > > > it all starts to make sense. > > > > > > You won't find expositions of Kevala Advaita in > > > the sermons of SBS. L.B. Shriver could have told > > > you that. Go figure. > > > > > > > >
