GMOs are a rather dated concept dreamed up before computers were
ubiquitous. With the advent of computers and the Internet we can grow
plenty of crops without them being genetically modified though the GMO
crops are modified for one thing: profit. We now know how to grow
natural crops even in the cities using technology. The only thing that
keeps this from going viral is companies like Monsanto and big agra who
want to hoard food profits.
BTW Michael, what are you using to post on FFL? At least on email there
are often a lot of blank lines between the header of the post you are
replying to the body of that message. I don't see this with any other
posts here except yours.
On 03/09/2014 12:00 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
That's interesting in that I sort of thought Fagan had bowed out of
the movement but I reckon not - or maybe I was thinking of Larry Domash
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On Sun, 3/9/14, salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: GMOs threaten to end all life on Earth
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 9, 2014, 4:07 PM
It doesn't mean anything in any real,
demonstrable sense.
It was one of those movement things where someone
who is supposedly a top scientist in a field promises us the
latest info behind closed doors (wink, wink) when he only
tells the public the stuff they would understand. So I was
hoping for something profound but got a load of cock and
bull about how DNA was created by consciousness (yawn) which
means that interfering with DNA affected the expression of
enlightenment if you eat it. No, it doesn't make
sense.
Luckily for Dr Fagan there are enough other
reasons to be wary and his public lecture was very
interesting indeed. Stick to the facts, that's what I
say. Leave all this spiritual mumbo jumbo to the back room.
Like he did. He's on tour again at the moment but I
wouldn't be interested in hearing it because I know
it's a front for his weirdo TM beliefs about the
veda.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...>
wrote :
Now what exactly
does that mean, "interfering with consciousness and the
veda"???
Everything, according to the spiritual people IS
consciousness, including the creation of GMO crops and their
very existence IS consciousness - it may not be the best
manifestation of consciousness but they are part of it
nonetheless. And how can one interfere with the veda???
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On Sun, 3/9/14, salyavin808
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: GMOs threaten to end all life
on Earth
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 9, 2014, 7:08 AM
Taleb
expresses concern not for the potential health effects of
GMOs but for the risk they carry of ending all life on
Earth.
Yes, one does seem to outweigh
the other a bit.....
For example, if 100 new GM seed
types are produced, then that 0.1 percent chance suddenly
becomes a 10 percent chance of global life-ending
catastrophe.
Assuming the first calculation
is correct......
The draft form of the paper, "The
Precautionary Principle," is available to download as
a
PDF document here.
Where?
I'd like to have a read if
you've got a link. My main objection is actually the
fact that the world food supply will become the regulated
property of a few biotech companies. Then you have the
inevitable spread of modified genes into the wild and all
the unexpected consequences that might have. Most of it
seems pretty harmless though, but the worst way of fighting
it was the TMO's
reason.
I went to a lecture by John
Fagan, the TM scientist who campaigns against it, in public
he makes some interesting points but in private it's
the
same old "interfering with consciousness and the
veda" BS that he couldn't ever admit to in public
without destroying all scientific credibility. How to tell
when you're in a cult part 357: You have to keep your
beliefs secret. See also
Scientology and Xenu.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...>
wrote :
GMOs threaten to
end all life on Earth, risk engineering professor and
investment expert warns
http://www.fool.com)Genetically modified organisms (GMOs)
threaten to cause "an irreversible termination of life
at some scale, which could be the planet," according
to
Nassim Taleb, an author and distinguished professor of risk
engineering at New York University who made a fortune after
disasters like September 11 and the Great Recession.
Taleb recently made his feelings on GMOs known in a paper
that is available to the public, though still in draft
form.
Taleb expresses concern not for the potential health
effects
of GMOs but for the risk they carry of ending all life on
Earth. A single GM seed type has a miniscule chance --
e.g.,
0.1 percent -- of causing the breakdown of the ecosystem
that all life depends on, also called ecocide. With this
one
type of seed, it is highly unlikely that total ecocide
would
ever occur; however, with increasing amounts of GM seed
varieties comes cumulative risk. For example, if 100 new GM
seed types are produced, then that 0.1 percent chance
suddenly becomes a 10 percent chance of global life-ending
catastrophe.
The associated risks vary for different seeds, and a huge
number of factors are involved, but what Taleb's paper
stresses is that these small odds add up over time so that
"something bound to hit the [ecocide] barrier is about
guaranteed to hit it."
Click here to read a report by The Motley Fool's Brian
Stoffel explaining Taleb's paper in greater detail. The
draft form of the paper, "The Precautionary
Principle," is available to download as a PDF document
here.
