Michael: Do you not understand the phrase "elements of both"? 

 Try to engage here with what people are telling you. Otherwise you sound like 
the most rigid fundamentalist True Believer. This issue isn't cut-and-dried, 
yes/no, black/white; it's complicated. And it isn't only a TM issue by any 
means, as Bhairitu just pointed out.
 

 "True Believers tend to believe in Absolutist terms (either l00% true or 100% 
false) and they can't tolerate situations in which:  a. the truth is unknown; 
b. the truth is midway between extremes; c. the truth is simply unknowable; or 
d. variants such as true some of the time, but at other times not true, or true 
for some people but not others."

 

 This sure seems like it describes you.
 

 

 go talk to the actual devout practicing Hindus about it and see what they say. 
I am not talking about people like Ravi who said he had in essence left the 
religion behind, I am talking about people like his mother and grandmother who 
insist he go to temple because they really believe he needs the blessings of 
the gods.
 
 It is the height of arrogance to tell others what their religion is.
 
 It's a floor wax!
 No, it's a dessert topping!
 Michael,
 "Hinduism" is far, far too complex and elaborate
 to insist that it's either one or the other, a religion
 or a philosophy. It has elements of both. Rather than just
 screeching at people like a fundamentalist preacher, why
 don't you ask them why they say it's a philosophy?
 Who knows, you might learn something.
 
 Obviously
 Michael has NOT been to
 India.  FYI  Michael, Indians love to discuss such
 issues.  Plus
 if you went there and proclaimed that Hinduism is not a
 religion
 but a philosophy they would just look at you with "what
 else is
 new" grin.
 
 Alright I tell
 you what, you go to India with noozguru
 and get you a soapbox too and loudly proclaim Hinduism is
 not a religion and see what the adherents of Santana
 Dharma do to you - you'll be wishin' you had said it
 to
 Carlos Santana instead of the followers of the Hindu
 RELIGION as they are sending off into your next
 incarnation. 


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