Isn't that just like a TMer - say something they don't agree with and they call you a name and try to get everyone else to shun you. Go figure.
Note: The term 'Internet Troll' is frequently abused to slander opponents in heated debates and is frequently misapplied by those who are ignorant of Internet etiquette. AMT Troll FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/2977cj http://tinyurl.com/2977cj ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote : Richard is a troll. He even contradicts a lot of his own posts regarding healthy eating. Most of us just ignore him. On 02/18/2015 03:04 PM, ultrarishi wrote: You are right, I have not provided any links to show the safety of organic vs. non organic and I'm not going to. I have researched this enough over the decades that I am quite comfortable with what I have seen, experienced and learn. Have you seen who is behind the geneticliteracyproject.org. It's just one of the many faces of the Hydra that Koch Bros. spawn every 5 minutes. And if you give them a little time we will see something like Americans For Food Security, Alimentary Crossroads, and the Coffee Tea and Me Party. Even if GMO and non organic food was perfectly safe, it has been horrible practice internationally. The vast majority of antibiotics given out are going to animals because of the unsanitary and inhumane ways they are raised. We are practicing monoculture which creates extreme food insecurity when your crops are stricken with blight. We have our economy dominated by big oil, big pharma and big agra which are not innovating the drugs we need, especially antibiotics and rendering what we have into uselessness. We fight wars in hot, dusty countries that hate us (and for good reason) and modern agricultural practices have destroyed the small farm and created margins so small for farmers it's just not worth it to them. The big companies are just like our financial institutions where they have gotten so large they are too big to fail. So, even if their products are perfectly safe I refuse to buy them because they are destroying small business, our health system, our economy, our respect in the world. They are a time bomb. Genetic Literacy Project is directed by Jon Entine, who is a Fellow at the American Enterprise Insttitute. One of his recent clients (drum roll please) was Monsanto! Big surprise! So, I'm not going to take the bait and engage in a discussion about where is all the research. There is plenty of good reason NOT to eat these foods that have little to do with food safety. I am trying to keep as much of the money I earn in circulation in small, local business who live where I live, have sustainable practices and treat their employees (my neighbors) well. I do not want to give money to the robber barons who are destroying this country while suspressing wages, free speech, corporate transparency and accountability, wantonly ignore global warming, screw the good work some NGO's are doing, corrupting politics, and supporting big tobacco. I am sure they have lots of studies that prove not only are these nerve toxins safe on our foods, etc., but, in fact, are great for us. To steal one of my favorite quotes: " I never meta-analysis I didn't like"! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <richard@...> mailto:richard@... wrote : We eat organic natural foods because we enjoy them and can afford them and we live within walking distance of a Whole Foods Market, a Trader Joe's, and a week-end Farmer's Market. The vast majority of people cannot access these food sources or afford the higher prices. You are considered part of the elite if you shop for food at these establishments. You failed to provide any links or cite any sources that would indicate that organic or non-GMO foods are superior to human health over normal foods purchased at a Safeway food store. Organic food preferences are simply personal preferences, cult fads and the food fetishes of rich people. You also failed to provide any alternative sources for the availability of food to the mass of humanity. There is no scientific proof that organic or natural foods contribute anything to improved human health over normal food in a Safeway store. According to what I've read, there is broad scientific consensus that food on the market derived from GM crops does not pose any greater risk to human health than conventional food. "In fact, 'factories' located within the plant itself are now known to make new genes. The new genes are composed of pieces of old genes and are put together haphazardly. Hence, we have always been eating foods containing brand new — but totally uncharacterized —genes." http://geneticliteracyproject.org/2015/02/17/confession-of-a-liberal-organic-food-consumer-and-scientist-i-support-gmos/ http://geneticliteracyproject.org/2015/02/17/confession-of-a-liberal-organic-food-consumer-and-scientist-i-support-gmos/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Farmers markets are year round here. The produce selection this winter has been pretty dismal due to the drought. When I was living in Seattle I shopped the co-op. Some of our supermarkets, like Raley's, have large organic produce sections and it's sometime worth checking prices because some items might be on sale for less than the non-organic. On 02/17/2015 10:18 PM, ultrarishi wrote: And I forgot the Farmer's Markets (as in plural)! They are seasonal, obviously, so the don't come readily to mind, especially this time of the year. In addition to the people also subscribe to Food Cooperatives. Many of our friends split a subscription because the bounty is so large. Here's a link to last year's Farmer's Market Guide. Dr. Triguna would be proud of how seasonal our eating is, LOL! http://www.tricountyfarm.org/files/2014_tc_ffg.pdf http://www.tricountyfarm.org/files/2014_tc_ffg.pdf ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote : Richard is a troll. He even contradicts a lot of his own posts regarding healthy eating. Most of us just ignore him. On 02/18/2015 03:04 PM, ultrarishi wrote: You are right, I have not provided any links to show the safety of organic vs. non organic and I'm not going to. I have researched this enough over the decades that I am quite comfortable with what I have seen, experienced and learn. Have you seen who is behind the geneticliteracyproject.org. It's just one of the many faces of the Hydra that Koch Bros. spawn every 5 minutes. And if you give them a little time we will see something like Americans For Food Security, Alimentary Crossroads, and the Coffee Tea and Me Party. Even if GMO and non organic food was perfectly safe, it has been horrible practice internationally. The vast majority of antibiotics given out are going to animals because of the unsanitary and inhumane ways they are raised. We are practicing monoculture which creates extreme food insecurity when your crops are stricken with blight. We have our economy dominated by big oil, big pharma and big agra which are not innovating the drugs we need, especially antibiotics and rendering what we have into uselessness. We fight wars in hot, dusty countries that hate us (and for good reason) and modern agricultural practices have destroyed the small farm and created margins so small for farmers it's just not worth it to them. The big companies are just like our financial institutions where they have gotten so large they are too big to fail. So, even if their products are perfectly safe I refuse to buy them because they are destroying small business, our health system, our economy, our respect in the world. They are a time bomb. Genetic Literacy Project is directed by Jon Entine, who is a Fellow at the American Enterprise Insttitute. One of his recent clients (drum roll please) was Monsanto! Big surprise! So, I'm not going to take the bait and engage in a discussion about where is all the research. There is plenty of good reason NOT to eat these foods that have little to do with food safety. I am trying to keep as much of the money I earn in circulation in small, local business who live where I live, have sustainable practices and treat their employees (my neighbors) well. I do not want to give money to the robber barons who are destroying this country while suspressing wages, free speech, corporate transparency and accountability, wantonly ignore global warming, screw the good work some NGO's are doing, corrupting politics, and supporting big tobacco. I am sure they have lots of studies that prove not only are these nerve toxins safe on our foods, etc., but, in fact, are great for us. To steal one of my favorite quotes: " I never meta-analysis I didn't like"! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <richard@...> mailto:richard@... wrote : We eat organic natural foods because we enjoy them and can afford them and we live within walking distance of a Whole Foods Market, a Trader Joe's, and a week-end Farmer's Market. The vast majority of people cannot access these food sources or afford the higher prices. You are considered part of the elite if you shop for food at these establishments. You failed to provide any links or cite any sources that would indicate that organic or non-GMO foods are superior to human health over normal foods purchased at a Safeway food store. Organic food preferences are simply personal preferences, cult fads and the food fetishes of rich people. You also failed to provide any alternative sources for the availability of food to the mass of humanity. There is no scientific proof that organic or natural foods contribute anything to improved human health over normal food in a Safeway store. According to what I've read, there is broad scientific consensus that food on the market derived from GM crops does not pose any greater risk to human health than conventional food. "In fact, 'factories' located within the plant itself are now known to make new genes. The new genes are composed of pieces of old genes and are put together haphazardly. Hence, we have always been eating foods containing brand new — but totally uncharacterized —genes." http://geneticliteracyproject.org/2015/02/17/confession-of-a-liberal-organic-food-consumer-and-scientist-i-support-gmos/ http://geneticliteracyproject.org/2015/02/17/confession-of-a-liberal-organic-food-consumer-and-scientist-i-support-gmos/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Farmers markets are year round here. The produce selection this winter has been pretty dismal due to the drought. When I was living in Seattle I shopped the co-op. Some of our supermarkets, like Raley's, have large organic produce sections and it's sometime worth checking prices because some items might be on sale for less than the non-organic. On 02/17/2015 10:18 PM, ultrarishi wrote: And I forgot the Farmer's Markets (as in plural)! They are seasonal, obviously, so the don't come readily to mind, especially this time of the year. In addition to the people also subscribe to Food Cooperatives. Many of our friends split a subscription because the bounty is so large. Here's a link to last year's Farmer's Market Guide. Dr. Triguna would be proud of how seasonal our eating is, LOL! http://www.tricountyfarm.org/files/2014_tc_ffg.pdf http://www.tricountyfarm.org/files/2014_tc_ffg.pdf
