Look Aryavazhi, It's not problem if you have some inherent desire to argue. The fact that you so desperately wish to point out difference that don't exist, says a lot.
Most everyone here has an interest in spiritual development. Among most here is a liberal, or libertarian bias. Culturally, there is great similiarly in what we like in terms of music and artisitic expressions. You just have a burr in your butt, because of, I don't know what, nor do I care. If you hitched your wagon to the wrong star long ago, you seem to repeating the same mistake here. Let's face it. All the negative attributes to ascribe to me, you accept in, say Barry, because you like him. But you are too ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote : Here you have people, who for the most part have similar beliefs, politically, culturally, spiritually, You are dead wrong. We are not all 'similar' in our beliefs, instead everyone is actually very different - both, in experience and understanding. If you don't understand this, it indeed explains, why you are so upset. Look Aryavazhi, It's not my problem if you feel some need to be argumentative. The fact that you so desperately need to point out differences that don't exist, says a lot. Most everyone here has an interest in spiritual development. Sure, we go in divergent directions from there, but that is the umbrella under which we have discourse. Among most here is a liberal, or libertarian bias. Culturally, there is great similarly in what we like in terms of music and artistic expressions. That's seems obvious to me, but perhaps not to you. Many of us have earned their changes in beliefs the hard way, some more hard, some less hard, it takes years, sometimes half of one's life to change the way we understand the world. If you could accept this, you would be ranting less, and you wouldn't find a need for continuous ad hominems, because your posts are hardly ever more. Content 0 The fact of the matter is, all the negative points you call me out on, you accept, in say, Barry, because you like him, or agree with his points of view. Barry pushes his anti cult agenda unabashedly. I find that he often misrepresents other peoples opinions and relies on straw man arguments. I call him out on that, but you see those posts of mine as ad hominems, and everything he does as on target. I guess we just have a difference of opinion. The truth is: how can TMers ever hope to create world peace, if they cannot even understand those who once followed them? It seems you can only live peacefully with people of your own ilk. If there is some little deviation, you are immediately at war, and start to demonize your opponents. How many of you believe, that Turq. or MJ is some kind of demonic figure, who represents the evil forces that want to stop the progress of TM? Of the TB TMers, I am sure there are many. Again, it apparently serves your purposes to jump to conclusions. There is no doubt that Michael Jackson is heavily invested in seeing the demise of the TMO. But the fact of the matter is that he raises many good points. He does, in my opinion, choose to filter out anything that does not jibe with his narrative, but that's his business. I can't help but like him. I liked Barry for many years, but there comes a point when the misrepresentations, the straw man set ups, the downright meanness became too much for me. And really I think this is the experience a lot of people have with him. But I'd say they choose to leave quietly rather than have an uncomfortable falling out. But hey, if you find him to be a stand up kind of guy, great. and yet after a decent interval of tolerant discourse, it has become toxic, Look at it like this: Somebodies poison is somebody else's medicine. It simply depends on your perspective Exactly, just what I am saying. You single me out as a villain because you don't like my opinions. and one group blames the other for its demise. I think only you blame FFL for the demise, here people are actually happy that you left, well if you really would have left. Yes, as I've said, I don't mind the bland, repetitive posts castigating all the usual subjects. You may notice, I don't respond to the stuff MJ posts. I generally don't even respond to Barry's posts. But when I find that he's saying one thing, and doing another, or misrepresenting something, then I do speak up. It looks like he's down to two or three friends here, so maybe that says something as well. And what, are there five or six regular posters in the whole lot of subscribers?
