I think standards are good. Despite my defense of Tom, I think making racial epithets on a list like this is inappropriate. As I do subtle slurs -- even if not intented but only non-thinking -- per my comments on Peter's post. I am not sure where to draw the line in terms of list governance. But for someone like Tom, direct confrontation and like insults are like throwing oil on a fire.
Given Tom can dish it out sometimes in rude ways, what is a healthy response -- for the list, for the person feeling insulted, and for Tom? To call Tom an unmitigated asshole? I don't think so. That just "turns Tom on" gets his vintictive "me against the world" juices flowing. Ignoring such can work. Sometimes inflamatory posters seek provocation and an excuse to get pissed at someone. If ignored, they shrivel up. Like peter's ... oh never mind. Or systematic, unemotional questions. "Tom, why do you believe that?" A sort of socratic method. So people are rude. IMO, there are a lot of rude people on the list. Like tom, direct confrontation of them, for most, is not effective. So when someone is rude -- what to do? Maybe just whine about it. Maybe that will work. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In my opinion when you make nasty anti-Semitic (or any kind of racial > epithet) remarks as both Tom and Billy G have, you are crossing a > line. They are the only two who have done so. > > If you were around when ColdBlueIce (I think that was his handle) > otherwise known as Steve Perino, was you would have seen what nasty > rude was. > > What I find "rude" about Tom is he hurls racist epithets, I understand how that is rude. > says he > won't read or respond to anyone I fail to see how that is rude. Its a choice. lots of people here post and then don't respond to comments. > and then thinks anyone is going to > care to hear about the $$$$ he spends on yagyas which, to my > understanding, are supposed to smooth out personality roughness. So ones inner thinking is rude. No, sorry, I can't buy that one. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > On Dec 3, 2005, at 6:32 PM, anonymousff wrote: > > > > > > > So Tom, in his moments, is not unique. Dare I say, even on this > list, > > > > there lurk a few apparently rude people. > > > > > > There's rudeness and there's rudeness. Tom is quite a stand-out in > > > that area, IMO. I'm afraid nobody else on this forum even comes > close. > > > > Oh, good. So we can be rude, but just not too rude. Great, because I > > love rudeness. > > > > Where exactly is the line? And does quantity count? I mean if the line > > is at 10 x, but one is 3x rude 5 times in a day, is that like being > > 15x rude once? I mean a lot of people here appear to be sy s low to > > medium level of rudeness all day long. Silly me, that seems worse that > > one big blast of Tom rudeness. But I am probably being rude in saying > > so. :) > > > > Maybe you can write something up for Rick to put in the guidelines > > about the appropriate level of rudeness for this list. > > > > And what about duels. We should put something in the guidelines about > > that. When its appropriate, when its not. How to "call someone out" -- > > i mean slapping them with your white glove seems kind of hard on the > > internet. Proper weapons? Proper timing -- we'll get a jyotishee right > > on that. And WHO gets to face east?????!!!! Gadzooks this IS a > > complicated issue. > > > > > > Rude on! > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
