Salyavin, I'm gonna combine your two responses, one to me and one to JR, and
respond to both. Here's our exchange:
Hi salyavin, it's neither knowing nor believing. It's experiencing and then
interpreting or labeling. I bet "believing" happens in its very own section of
the brain. (-:
But labeling something a god is surely belief?
Salyvin, if the first human labeled something "tree," was there a belief
involved?!
I think what you're getting at, esp in your response to JR, is that we label
something as god or divine and these words have meanings that are problematic.
But why are they?
From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can Artificial Enlightenment Exist?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote :
Salyavin,
Believing is the initial cognition of a Divine Being after experiencing all of
the information from the world through the five senses. Knowing a Divine Being
is the stage of believing in which the mind is convinced of Its existence
through the information from the senses. Enlightenment occurs when the mind
and It are one and coexist in the body as it lives in the world.
Convinced is a worrying word for me in this instance, labeling experiences as
some sort of "other" is making unwarranted assumptions. I could call it
all-round superniceness and it would be the same thing, it's us who call it
divine and thus dump our needy baggage all over it.
An artificial machine cannot experience the Divine as the human body can.
Therefore, it cannot believe nor experience enlightenment.
How do you know? If we build a machine that mimics ourselves perfectly, who are
we to say that it can't have joyous experiences.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :
Hi salyavin, it's neither knowing nor believing. It's experiencing and then
interpreting or labeling. I bet "believing" happens in its very own section of
the brain. (-:
From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 7:14 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can Artificial Enlightenment Exist?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote :
IMO, I don't believe artificial intelligence can know God. Knowing God
requires a biological base, with a complicated connections of nerve cells in
the brain and a body structure made of bones, flesh and blood.
"Know" god? Don't we mean "believe"? I'm sure a computer could acquire beliefs
about where it came from, probably worship it's creator, at least they won't be
in error about who that is!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emptybill@...> wrote :
This article is full of inaccurate generalities about Buddhism and shows
ignorance about the foundations of the varied darshana-s of the Indian
subcontinent. Since most current Euro-American "thinkers" who consider
consciousness and AI are philosophical amateurs, this article is a display of
truncated post-empirical/analytic musings.
How about this question instead?
Can an artificial intelligence know God?
This is an equivalent counter-question, which means it is a panapoly of foolish
assumptions posing as intelligent inquiry.
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