There is a good chance that mine may be cut next year. I have a teamster 
pension. So far, UPS has been responsible for paying it but next year the 
teamster take control.They are severely underfunded because they've taken the 
money UPS contributed for it's employees and paid pensions for retirees of 
other companies that didn't contribute as much leaving them underfunded. Now 
they say they will have to make *tuff* choices, cutting pensions from as much 
as $3,ooo a month or more to $700. They say they won't cut  pensions of someone 
over 80 or of someone disabled. I was forced into retirement due to disability 
and currently on SS disability. However, I don't trust them.

      From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 2:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Bring on a Ryan Budget
   
     Pensions were never meant to keep paying the salary you received when 
working. They were made to make your retirement more comfortable than just 
having Social Security.  Same was true in selling the idea of 401Ks and we know 
how well that worked out.  Unless you are a money hound and at least an amateur 
stockbroker these often don't work out well at all.
 
 I've read some posts on a board from folks getting these pensions and 
admitting that though they're nice to get weren't really all that necessary.
 
 On 08/18/2015 12:03 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  


    Not so sure the cities *offer* these unsustainable pensions as much as the 
unions demand them. Cities are stuck kicking the can down the road for  some 
other mayor to fix.
  
      From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 11:55 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Bring on a Ryan Budget
   
          City problems are due to really incompetent people running them be 
they Republican or Democrat.  They've done stupid things like offer 
unsustainable pension plans to attract new employees.  I still think those were 
sold to them because Wall Street wanted to gamble with that  money.  We've 
allowed these people to run things because the public is generally apathetic 
and a lot of city  elections are confusing and corrupt.
 
 On 08/17/2015 04:51 PM, William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
 
   
    Reagan was NOT a city mayor but was state & federal & HIS time lifted my 
boat & still in part does 4 many thanks to the tax changes & more !4  
     It LIFT not like bu the did enjoy boating I note, With respect & a smile 
cities are stil in it many close to bankruptcy !   I as is the Fed affecting 
our great G.G.G  &Great grand children, & the un born to my perhaps our regret 
Bring on the Ryan Budget soon!
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 Sent: Mon, Aug 17, 2015 12:34 pm
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd:
 
   
 
  Reagan didn't life all boats either and neither did the Bushes so it's not 
just  the Democrats fault. 
 
 On 08/17/2015 06:49 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote: 
  
     Misery loves company. 
    
      From: "William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: brandon.sun...@gmail.com; bobandjanet...@verizon.net; karenhmc...@aol.com; 
dorothea...@hotmail.com; latinus17_latinu...@hotmail.com; 
tom.hebe...@gmail.com; rfl...@brocku.ca; rf2...@yahoo.com; 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; herman rodenberg <hermanrodenb...@msn.com>; 
dlf5...@gmail.com; slingshoote...@gmail.com; slsmith...@yahoo.com; 
fl...@comcast.net; l.donaldl...@gmail.com 
 Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 8:26  AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fwd:
    
         
 
 
    -----Original Message----- 
 From: Lawrence Smith <lawrencesmi...@frontier.com> 
 Sent: Sun, Aug 16, 2015 9:18  pm 
 
        10 Poorest Cities in America (How did it happen?)
 City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level
 1. Detroit , MI 32.5%
 2. Buffalo , NY 29.9%
 3. Cincinnati , OH 27.8%
 4. Cleveland , OH 27.0%
 5. Miami , FL 26.9%
 5. St. Louis , MO 26.8%
 7. El Paso , TX 26.4%
 8. Milwaukee , WI 26.2%
 9. Philadelphia , PA 25.1%
 10. Newark , NJ 24.2%         
 What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest  poverty rate all 
have in common?        
   - Detroit, MI   - (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican 
 mayor since 1961
   - Buffalo, NY  - (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954
   - Cincinnati, OH - (3rd) not since 1984
   - Cleveland, OH - (4th) not since 1989
   - Miami, FL    - (5th) has never had a Republican mayor
   - St. Louis, MO - (6th) not since 1949
   - El Paso, TX - (7th) has never had a Republican mayor
   - Milwaukee, WI - (8th) not since 1908
   - Philadelphia, PA - (9th) not since 1952
   - Newark, NJ - (10th) not since 1907
               Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the 
same thing over and over again and  expecting different results.'         
 It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats....... Yet they are  still POOR. 
        
        
   - You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
   - You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
   - You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
   - You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
   - You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
   - You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative 
and independence.
   - You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and 
should do for themselves.
     
         Abraham Lincoln                   
 
       
 
 
 
        
  
    
 
        
 
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