Federal employees R in fact mostly union mbrs including the postal workers NOT 
the military I note



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Probably about the same that Fed-x gets, maybe a little better. Fed-x employees 
have similar pay and benefits to UPS and they aren't union. They are generally 
paid a little less than UPS employees but usually make up the difference in 
year end bonuses.   
  
  
     
  
   
    
     
      
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And what would you have received without union representation?           
             
 On 08/18/2015 05:25 PM, Mike Dixon            mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 
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*Them* is the Teamsters and any other union for that matter. No, I don't expect 
a government bail-out although I'm sure the Teamsters are probably seeking 
that. There is adequate funding for our(UPS) pensions if they( the Teamsters) 
stop paying or cut the pensions of retirees from companies that did not 
contribute adequately to their employees pension fund.               
               
               
                             
               
               
                
                 
                  
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                       who is the them U do not trust 1 & I hope the federal 
Gov does not salvage in any manor private & or union plans so poorly run. The 
Feds borrow 43 cents of each dollar they - we borrow from PPR China & some 
tructal states,( UAR ones) who still trust us to have our great great grand 
children re pay this 18 or plus trillion in debt SOPT & slow THE Borrowing & or 
fed guarantees Congress.Our great grand children debts are best safe guarded 
when Congress in adjourned                      
                       
                       
                       
                        
                        
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
In a message dated 08/18/15 15:48:42 Eastern Daylight Time,                     
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There is a good chance that mine may be cut next year. I have a teamster 
pension. So far, UPS has been responsible for paying it but next year the 
teamster take control.They are severely underfunded because they've taken the 
money UPS contributed for it's employees and paid pensions for retirees of 
other companies that didn't contribute as much leaving them underfunded. Now 
they say they will have to make *tuff* choices, cutting pensions from as much 
as $3,ooo a month or more to $700. They say they won't cut  pensions of someone 
over 80 or of someone disabled. I was forced into retirement due to disability 
and currently on SS disability. However, I don't trust them.                    
      
                          
                          
                                                   
                          
                          
                           
                            
                             
                             From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 
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Pensions were never meant to keep paying the salary you received when working. 
They were made to make your retirement more comfortable than just having Social 
Security.  Same was true in selling the idea of 401Ks and we know how well that 
worked out.  Unless you are a money hound and at least an amateur stockbroker 
these often don't work out well at all.                                  
                                   
 I've read some posts on a board from folks getting these pensions and 
admitting that though they're nice to get weren't really all that necessary.    
                              
                                   
 On 08/18/2015 12:03 PM, Mike Dixon                                   
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Not so sure the cities *offer* these unsustainable pensions as much as the 
unions demand them. Cities are stuck kicking the can down the road for some 
other mayor to fix.                                     
                                      
                                                                           
                                      
                                      
                                       
                                        
                                         
                                         From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 
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City problems are due to really incompetent people running them be they 
Republican or Democrat.  They've done stupid things like offer unsustainable 
pension plans to attract new employees.  I still think those were sold to them 
because Wall Street wanted to gamble with that money.  We've allowed these 
people to run things because the public is generally apathetic and a lot of 
city elections are confusing and corrupt.                                       
       
                                               
 On 08/17/2015 04:51 PM, William Leed                                           
    wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:                                       
       
                                              
                                              
                                              
                                               
                                              
                                              
                                               
                                                                                
                
                                                 
                                                 Reagan was NOT a city mayor 
but was state & federal & HIS time lifted my boat & still in part does 4 many 
thanks to the tax changes & more !4                                             
    
                                                 
                                                 
                                                 
                                                 
 It LIFT not like bu the did enjoy boating I note, With respect & a smile 
cities are stil in it many close to bankruptcy !                                
                
                                                 
  I as is the Fed affecting our great G.G.G  &Great grand children, & the un 
born to my perhaps our regret Bring on the Ryan Budget soon!                    
                             
                                                  
                                                  
                                                  
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Reagan didn't life all boats either and neither did the Bushes so it's not just 
the Democrats fault.                                                      
                                                      
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Misery loves company.                                                        
                                                        
                                                                                
                               
                                                        
                                                        
                                                         
                                                          
                                                           
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                                                                       10 
Poorest Cities in America (How did it happen?)
 City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level
 1. Detroit , MI 32.5%
 2. Buffalo , NY 29.9%
 3. Cincinnati , OH 27.8%
 4. Cleveland , OH 27.0%
 5. Miami , FL 26.9%
 5. St. Louis , MO 26.8%
 7. El Paso , TX 26.4%
 8. Milwaukee , WI 26.2%
 9. Philadelphia , PA 25.1%
 10. Newark , NJ 24.2%                                                          
             
                                                                       
                                                                        
                                                                                
                                                               
                                                                       
                                                                       
                                                                       
 What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty rate all 
have in common?                                                                 
      
                                                                      
                                                                     
                                                                    
                                                                    
                                                                    
Detroit, MI   - (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican  
mayor since 1961 
                                                                    
Buffalo, NY  - (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954 
                                                                    
Cincinnati, OH - (3rd) not since 1984 
                                                                    
Cleveland, OH - (4th) not since 1989 
                                                                    
Miami, FL    - (5th) has never had a Republican mayor 
                                                                    
St. Louis, MO - (6th) not since 1949 
                                                                    
El Paso, TX - (7th) has never had a Republican mayor 
                                                                    
Milwaukee, WI - (8th) not since 1908 
                                                                    
Philadelphia, PA - (9th) not since 1952 
                                                                    
Newark, NJ - (10th) not since 1907
                                                                   
                                                                    
                                                                     
                                                                      
                                                                       
                                                                                
                                                             
                                                                       
                                                                        
                                                                                
                                                               
                                                                       
                                                                       
                                                                       Einstein 
once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over 
again and expecting different results.'                                         
                              
                                                                       
                                                                        
                                                                                
                                                               
                                                                       
                                                                       
                                                                       
 It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats....... Yet they are still POOR.  
                                                                     
                                                                       
                                                                        
                                                                                
                                                               
                                                                       
                                                                       
                                                                       
                                                                       
                                                                      
                                                                     
                                                                    
                                                                    
                                                                    
You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. 
                                                                    
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. 
                                                                    
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. 
                                                                    
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. 
                                                                    
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. 
                                                                    
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and 
independence. 
                                                                    
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and 
should do for themselves.
                                                                   
                                                                    
                                                                     
                                                                      
                                                                       
                                                                       
         Abraham Lincoln                                                        
               
                                                                       
                                                                        
                                                                                
                                                               
                                                                       
                                                                      
                                                                     
                                                                    
                                                                   
                                                                  
                                                                 
                                                                
                                                               
                                                              
                                                             
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                           
                                                          
                                                         
                                                        
                                                       
                                                      
                                                     
                                                     
                                                     
                                                     
                                                    
                                                   
                                                  
                                                 
                                                
                                               
                                              
                                              
                                             
                                            
                                           
                                           
                                           
                                          
                                         
                                        
                                       
                                      
                                     
                                    
                                   
                                  
                                  
                                 
                                 
                                 
                                
                                
                                
                               
                               
                               
                              
                             
                            
                           
                          
                         
                        
                       
                       
                       
                      
                     
                    
                   
                   
                   
                  
                 
                
               
              
             
            
          
           
          
          
          
         
         
        
                 
       
       
       
      
      
     
    
    
    
    
  
  

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