And what would you have received without union representation?
On 08/18/2015 05:25 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
*Them* is the Teamsters and any other union for that matter. No, I
don't expect a government bail-out although I'm sure the Teamsters are
probably seeking that. There is adequate funding for our(UPS) pensions
if they( the Teamsters) stop paying or cut the pensions of retirees
from companies that did not contribute adequately to their employees
pension fund.
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*To:* "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
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*Sent:* Tuesday, August 18, 2015 3:09 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Bring on a Ryan Budget
who is the them U do not trust 1 & I hope the federal Gov does not
salvage in any manor private & or union plans so poorly run. The Feds
borrow 43 cents of each dollar they - we borrow from PPR China & some
tructal states,( UAR ones) who still trust us to have our great great
grand children re pay this 18 or plus trillion in debt SOPT & slow THE
Borrowing & or fed guarantees Congress.Our great grand children debts
are best safe guarded when Congress in adjourned
In a message dated 08/18/15 15:48:42 Eastern Daylight Time,
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com writes:
There is a good chance that mine may be cut next year. I have a
teamster pension. So far, UPS has been responsible for paying it
but next year the teamster take control.They are severely
underfunded because they've taken the money UPS contributed for
it's employees and paid pensions for retirees of other companies
that didn't contribute as much leaving them underfunded. Now they
say they will have to make *tuff* choices, cutting pensions from
as much as $3,ooo a month or more to $700. They say they won't cut
pensions of someone over 80 or of someone disabled. I was forced
into retirement due to disability and currently on SS disability.
However, I don't trust them.
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*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Bring on a Ryan Budget
Pensions were never meant to keep paying the salary you received
when working. They were made to make your retirement more
comfortable than just having Social Security. Same was true in
selling the idea of 401Ks and we know how well that worked out.
Unless you are a money hound and at least an amateur stockbroker
these often don't work out well at all.
I've read some posts on a board from folks getting these pensions
and admitting that though they're nice to get weren't really all
that necessary.
On 08/18/2015 12:03 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
<mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Not so sure the cities *offer* these unsustainable pensions as
much as the unions demand them. Cities are stuck kicking the can
down the road for some other mayor to fix.
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<mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net> [FairfieldLife]"
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*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Bring on a Ryan Budget
City problems are due to really incompetent people running them
be they Republican or Democrat. They've done stupid things like
offer unsustainable pension plans to attract new employees. I
still think those were sold to them because Wall Street wanted to
gamble with that money. We've allowed these people to run things
because the public is generally apathetic and a lot of city
elections are confusing and corrupt.
On 08/17/2015 04:51 PM, William Leed wle...@aol.com
<mailto:wle...@aol.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Reagan was NOT a city mayor but was state & federal & HIS time
lifted my boat & still in part does 4 many thanks to the tax
changes & more !4
It LIFT not like bu the did enjoy boating I note, With respect
& a smile cities are stil in it many close to bankruptcy !
I as is the Fed affecting our great G.G.G &Great grand
children, & the un born to my perhaps our regret Bring on the
Ryan Budget soon!
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Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd:
Reagan didn't life all boats either and neither did the Bushes
so it's not just the Democrats fault.
On 08/17/2015 06:49 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
<mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Misery loves company.
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Sent: Sun, Aug 16, 2015 9:18 pm
*10 Poorest Cities in America (How did it happen?)
City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level
1. Detroit , MI 32.5%
2. Buffalo , NY 29.9%
3. Cincinnati , OH 27.8%
4. Cleveland , OH 27.0%
5. Miami , FL 26.9%
5. St. Louis , MO 26.8%
7. El Paso , TX 26.4%
8. Milwaukee , WI 26.2%
9. Philadelphia , PA 25.1%
10. Newark , NJ 24.2%*
*
What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest
poverty rate all have in common?*
* Detroit, MI - (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't
elected a Republican mayor since 1961
* Buffalo, NY - (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954
* Cincinnati, OH - (3rd) not since 1984
* Cleveland, OH - (4th) not since 1989
* Miami, FL - (5th) has never had a Republican mayor
* St. Louis, MO - (6th) not since 1949
* El Paso, TX - (7th) has never had a Republican mayor
* Milwaukee, WI - (8th) not since 1908
* Philadelphia, PA - (9th) not since 1952
* Newark, NJ - (10th) not since 1907
Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the
same thing over and over again and expecting different
results.'
*
It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats....... Yet
they are still POOR.*
* You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
* You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
* You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
* You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage
payer down.
* You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting
class hatred.
* You cannot build character and courage by taking away
people's initiative and independence.
* You cannot help people permanently by doing for them,
what they could and should do for themselves.
*
Abraham Lincoln*
