*Them* is the Teamsters and any other union for that matter. No, I don't expect
a government bail-out although I'm sure the Teamsters are probably seeking
that. There is adequate funding for our(UPS) pensions if they( the Teamsters)
stop paying or cut the pensions of retirees from companies that did not
contribute adequately to their employees pension fund.
From: "wleed3 wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Bring on a Ryan Budget
who is the them U do not trust 1 & I hope the federal Gov does not salvage
in any manor private & or union plans so poorly run. The Feds borrow 43 cents
of each dollar they - we borrow from PPR China & some tructal states,( UAR
ones) who still trust us to have our great great grand children re pay this 18
or plus trillion in debt SOPT & slow THE Borrowing & or fed guarantees
Congress.Our great grand children debts are best safe guarded when Congress in
adjourned In a message dated 08/18/15 15:48:42 Eastern Daylight Time,
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com writes:
There is a good chance that mine may be cut next year. I have a teamster
pension. So far, UPS has been responsible for paying it but next year the
teamster take control.They are severely underfunded because they've taken the
money UPS contributed for it's employees and paid pensions for retirees of
other companies that didn't contribute as much leaving them underfunded. Now
they say they will have to make *tuff* choices, cutting pensions from as much
as $3,ooo a month or more to $700. They say they won't cut pensions of someone
over 80 or of someone disabled. I was forced into retirement due to disability
and currently on SS disability. However, I don't trust them.
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Bring on a Ryan Budget
Pensions were never meant to keep paying the salary you received when
working. They were made to make your retirement more comfortable than just
having Social Security. Same was true in selling the idea of 401Ks and we know
how well that worked out. Unless you are a money hound and at least an amateur
stockbroker these often don't work out well at all.
I've read some posts on a board from folks getting these pensions and admitting
that though they're nice to get weren't really all that necessary.
On 08/18/2015 12:03 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Not so sure the cities *offer* these unsustainable pensions as much as the
unions demand them. Cities are stuck kicking the can down the road for some
other mayor to fix.
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Bring on a Ryan Budget
City problems are due to really incompetent people running them be they
Republican or Democrat. They've done stupid things like offer unsustainable
pension plans to attract new employees. I still think those were sold to them
because Wall Street wanted to gamble with that money. We've allowed these
people to run things because the public is generally apathetic and a lot of
city elections are confusing and corrupt.
On 08/17/2015 04:51 PM, William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Reagan was NOT a city mayor but was state & federal & HIS time lifted my boat
& still in part does 4 many thanks to the tax changes & more !4
It LIFT not like bu the did enjoy boating I note, With respect & a smile
cities are stil in it many close to bankruptcy ! I as is the Fed affecting our
great G.G.G &Great grand children, & the un born to my perhaps our regret
Bring on the Ryan Budget soon!
-----Original Message-----
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Aug 17, 2015 12:34 pm
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd:
Reagan didn't life all boats either and neither did the Bushes so it's not just
the Democrats fault.
On 08/17/2015 06:49 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Misery loves company.
From: "William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fwd:
-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence Smith <lawrencesmi...@frontier.com>
Sent: Sun, Aug 16, 2015 9:18 pm
10 Poorest Cities in America (How did it happen?)
City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level
1. Detroit , MI 32.5%
2. Buffalo , NY 29.9%
3. Cincinnati , OH 27.8%
4. Cleveland , OH 27.0%
5. Miami , FL 26.9%
5. St. Louis , MO 26.8%
7. El Paso , TX 26.4%
8. Milwaukee , WI 26.2%
9. Philadelphia , PA 25.1%
10. Newark , NJ 24.2%
What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty rate all
have in common?
- Detroit, MI - (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican
mayor since 1961
- Buffalo, NY - (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954
- Cincinnati, OH - (3rd) not since 1984
- Cleveland, OH - (4th) not since 1989
- Miami, FL - (5th) has never had a Republican mayor
- St. Louis, MO - (6th) not since 1949
- El Paso, TX - (7th) has never had a Republican mayor
- Milwaukee, WI - (8th) not since 1908
- Philadelphia, PA - (9th) not since 1952
- Newark, NJ - (10th) not since 1907
Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over
and over again and expecting different results.'
It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats....... Yet they are still POOR.
- You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
- You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
- You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
- You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
- You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
- You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative
and independence.
- You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and
should do for themselves.
Abraham Lincoln
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