most slave holders even today do NOT work there property to death its far too valuable to work to death.
What history exactly & its author?
Wage slavery its not such but supply & demand the more valued workers R paid
more in wages or its substitute when too costly machines are purchased to
accomplish what labors did. The un employed do not apply 4 the skill set
required & so could work in our fields but we allow them by welfare to B
unemployed when there are lots of jobs for pickers etc. Or they could start
there own business in lots of areas & thus employ others. We find when un
employee run out many find employ we see.
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From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
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To: FairfieldLife <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Aug 18, 2015 9:15 pm
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Bring on a Ryan Budget
History says otherwise. You would have more wage slavery. There are too many
people running businesses that look down on laborers and want to work them to
death. It happens all over the world and even in the US. And look at the tech
companies who want more H1B Visas issued while there are thousands of
unemployed STEM workers right here in the US who can do those jobs.
On 08/18/2015 06:05 PM, William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
U would have seen a fair free market for labor
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And what would you have received without union representation?
On 08/18/2015 05:25 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
*Them* is the Teamsters and any other union for that matter. No, I don't
expect a government bail-out although I'm sure the Teamsters are probably
seeking that. There is adequate funding for our(UPS) pensions if they( the
Teamsters) stop paying or cut the pensions of retirees from companies that did
not contribute adequately to their employees pension fund.
From: "wleed3 wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]"
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To: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
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Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 3:09 PM
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who is the them U do not trust 1 & I hope the federal Gov
does not salvage in any manor private & or union plans so poorly run. The Feds
borrow 43 cents of each dollar they - we borrow from PPR China & some tructal
states,( UAR ones) who still trust us to have our great great grand children re
pay this 18 or plus trillion in debt SOPT & slow THE Borrowing & or fed
guarantees Congress.Our great grand children debts are best safe guarded when
Congress in adjourned
In a message dated 08/18/15 15:48:42 Eastern Daylight Time,
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com writes:
There is a good chance that mine may be cut next year. I have a teamster
pension. So far, UPS has been responsible for paying it but next year the
teamster take control.They are severely underfunded because they've taken the
money UPS contributed for it's employees and paid pensions for retirees of
other companies that didn't contribute as much leaving them underfunded. Now
they say they will have to make *tuff* choices, cutting pensions from as much
as $3,ooo a month or more to $700. They say they won't cut pensions of someone
over 80 or of someone disabled. I was forced into retirement due to disability
and currently on SS disability. However, I don't trust them.
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Bring on a Ryan Budget
Pensions were never meant to keep paying the salary you received when working.
They were made to make your retirement more comfortable than just having Social
Security. Same was true in selling the idea of 401Ks and we know how well that
worked out. Unless you are a money hound and at least an amateur stockbroker
these often don't work out well at all.
I've read some posts on a board from folks getting these pensions and
admitting that though they're nice to get weren't really all that necessary.
On 08/18/2015 12:03 PM, Mike Dixon
mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Not so sure the cities *offer* these unsustainable pensions as much as the
unions demand them. Cities are stuck kicking the can down the road for some
other mayor to fix.
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 11:55 AM
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City problems are due to really incompetent people running them be they
Republican or Democrat. They've done stupid things like offer unsustainable
pension plans to attract new employees. I still think those were sold to them
because Wall Street wanted to gamble with that money. We've allowed these
people to run things because the public is generally apathetic and a lot of
city elections are confusing and corrupt.
On 08/17/2015 04:51 PM, William Leed
wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Reagan was NOT a city mayor but
was state & federal & HIS time lifted my boat & still in part does 4 many
thanks to the tax changes & more !4
It LIFT not like bu the did enjoy boating I note, With respect & a smile
cities are stil in it many close to bankruptcy !
I as is the Fed affecting our great G.G.G &Great grand children, & the un
born to my perhaps our regret Bring on the Ryan Budget soon!
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Reagan didn't life all boats either and neither did the Bushes so it's not
just the Democrats fault.
On 08/17/2015 06:49 AM, Mike Dixon
mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Misery loves company.
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10 Poorest
Cities in America (How did it happen?)
City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level
1. Detroit , MI 32.5%
2. Buffalo , NY 29.9%
3. Cincinnati , OH 27.8%
4. Cleveland , OH 27.0%
5. Miami , FL 26.9%
5. St. Louis , MO 26.8%
7. El Paso , TX 26.4%
8. Milwaukee , WI 26.2%
9. Philadelphia , PA 25.1%
10. Newark , NJ 24.2%
What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty rate all
have in common?
Detroit, MI - (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican
mayor since 1961
Buffalo, NY - (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954
Cincinnati, OH - (3rd) not since 1984
Cleveland, OH - (4th) not since 1989
Miami, FL - (5th) has never had a Republican mayor
St. Louis, MO - (6th) not since 1949
El Paso, TX - (7th) has never had a Republican mayor
Milwaukee, WI - (8th) not since 1908
Philadelphia, PA - (9th) not since 1952
Newark, NJ - (10th) not since 1907
Einstein
once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over
again and expecting different results.'
It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats....... Yet they are still POOR.
You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and
independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and
should do for themselves.
Abraham Lincoln
