most slave holders even today do NOT work there property to death its far too valuable to work to death.
What history exactly & its author? Wage slavery its not such but supply & demand the more valued workers R paid more in wages or its substitute when too costly machines are purchased to accomplish what labors did. The un employed do not apply 4 the skill set required & so could work in our fields but we allow them by welfare to B unemployed when there are lots of jobs for pickers etc. Or they could start there own business in lots of areas & thus employ others. We find when un employee run out many find employ we see. -----Original Message----- From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Aug 18, 2015 9:15 pm Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Bring on a Ryan Budget History says otherwise. You would have more wage slavery. There are too many people running businesses that look down on laborers and want to work them to death. It happens all over the world and even in the US. And look at the tech companies who want more H1B Visas issued while there are thousands of unemployed STEM workers right here in the US who can do those jobs. On 08/18/2015 06:05 PM, William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: U would have seen a fair free market for labor -----Original Message----- From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Aug 18, 2015 8:35 pm Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Bring on a Ryan Budget And what would you have received without union representation? On 08/18/2015 05:25 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *Them* is the Teamsters and any other union for that matter. No, I don't expect a government bail-out although I'm sure the Teamsters are probably seeking that. There is adequate funding for our(UPS) pensions if they( the Teamsters) stop paying or cut the pensions of retirees from companies that did not contribute adequately to their employees pension fund. From: "wleed3 wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Bring on a Ryan Budget who is the them U do not trust 1 & I hope the federal Gov does not salvage in any manor private & or union plans so poorly run. The Feds borrow 43 cents of each dollar they - we borrow from PPR China & some tructal states,( UAR ones) who still trust us to have our great great grand children re pay this 18 or plus trillion in debt SOPT & slow THE Borrowing & or fed guarantees Congress.Our great grand children debts are best safe guarded when Congress in adjourned In a message dated 08/18/15 15:48:42 Eastern Daylight Time, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com writes: There is a good chance that mine may be cut next year. I have a teamster pension. So far, UPS has been responsible for paying it but next year the teamster take control.They are severely underfunded because they've taken the money UPS contributed for it's employees and paid pensions for retirees of other companies that didn't contribute as much leaving them underfunded. Now they say they will have to make *tuff* choices, cutting pensions from as much as $3,ooo a month or more to $700. They say they won't cut pensions of someone over 80 or of someone disabled. I was forced into retirement due to disability and currently on SS disability. However, I don't trust them. From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Bring on a Ryan Budget Pensions were never meant to keep paying the salary you received when working. They were made to make your retirement more comfortable than just having Social Security. Same was true in selling the idea of 401Ks and we know how well that worked out. Unless you are a money hound and at least an amateur stockbroker these often don't work out well at all. I've read some posts on a board from folks getting these pensions and admitting that though they're nice to get weren't really all that necessary. On 08/18/2015 12:03 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Not so sure the cities *offer* these unsustainable pensions as much as the unions demand them. Cities are stuck kicking the can down the road for some other mayor to fix. From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Bring on a Ryan Budget City problems are due to really incompetent people running them be they Republican or Democrat. They've done stupid things like offer unsustainable pension plans to attract new employees. I still think those were sold to them because Wall Street wanted to gamble with that money. We've allowed these people to run things because the public is generally apathetic and a lot of city elections are confusing and corrupt. On 08/17/2015 04:51 PM, William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Reagan was NOT a city mayor but was state & federal & HIS time lifted my boat & still in part does 4 many thanks to the tax changes & more !4 It LIFT not like bu the did enjoy boating I note, With respect & a smile cities are stil in it many close to bankruptcy ! I as is the Fed affecting our great G.G.G &Great grand children, & the un born to my perhaps our regret Bring on the Ryan Budget soon! -----Original Message----- From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Mon, Aug 17, 2015 12:34 pm Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Reagan didn't life all boats either and neither did the Bushes so it's not just the Democrats fault. On 08/17/2015 06:49 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Misery loves company. From: "William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: brandon.sun...@gmail.com; bobandjanet...@verizon.net; karenhmc...@aol.com; dorothea...@hotmail.com; latinus17_latinu...@hotmail.com; tom.hebe...@gmail.com; rfl...@brocku.ca; rf2...@yahoo.com; FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; herman rodenberg <hermanrodenb...@msn.com>; dlf5...@gmail.com; slingshoote...@gmail.com; slsmith...@yahoo.com; fl...@comcast.net; l.donaldl...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 8:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: -----Original Message----- From: Lawrence Smith <lawrencesmi...@frontier.com> Sent: Sun, Aug 16, 2015 9:18 pm 10 Poorest Cities in America (How did it happen?) City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level 1. Detroit , MI 32.5% 2. Buffalo , NY 29.9% 3. Cincinnati , OH 27.8% 4. Cleveland , OH 27.0% 5. Miami , FL 26.9% 5. St. Louis , MO 26.8% 7. El Paso , TX 26.4% 8. Milwaukee , WI 26.2% 9. Philadelphia , PA 25.1% 10. Newark , NJ 24.2% What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty rate all have in common? Detroit, MI - (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961 Buffalo, NY - (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954 Cincinnati, OH - (3rd) not since 1984 Cleveland, OH - (4th) not since 1989 Miami, FL - (5th) has never had a Republican mayor St. Louis, MO - (6th) not since 1949 El Paso, TX - (7th) has never had a Republican mayor Milwaukee, WI - (8th) not since 1908 Philadelphia, PA - (9th) not since 1952 Newark, NJ - (10th) not since 1907 Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.' It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats....... Yet they are still POOR. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence. You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves. Abraham Lincoln