---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :
Very short-sighted. Though the folks who have the responsibility to spread TM are probably clueless on how to run a university. Spiritual organizations seem generally piss poor at this kind of boring, sustainable activity, since the interest is ALWAYS on the front-lines and the leaders. There is also no 'spiritual administration' degree offered in schools, so the requirements for managing things are very subjective, often dependent on who the leader favored, vs. competence. Last, there may be some magical thinking going on, or at least rationalized denial. I think your "magical thinking" has hit the nail on the head. Support of nature and all that garble - just build it out of icing sugar and it will stand forever as testimony to the glory of The Teaching! Who designed the domes? Who engineered them? Who actually built them? How much was town labor or expertise as opposed to roo input? Who was the final "yes, go ahead this looks great and sound" man or woman? Did FF have to okay engineering and building and inspection permits all along the way or were there bribes or inside jobs? Anybody know? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : what I've personally witnessed over the course of my life is that the TMO does things as cheaply as possible. Spend as little as it can get away with, regardless of the out-come. When it comes to physical structures, this is manifest in planning, actual building and maintenance. Putting all three things together with the intent to save money and they get disaster. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Toxics, the dome and the Amish. Not green. Not leadership. Not Cool. I am not surprised. Disgraceful, this corner cutting for everything, beyond common sense and safety. Yeah, I don't know of any alternative roofing material that works as well as the petroleum-based products, which if applied correctly aren't a danger, in terms of fumes and exposure. Without addressing the foundation leaks you mention, my concern is that they are further sealing in the existing mold. Such revelry when the dome was built, and now this. Sad. First step would be to fire the facilities manager, and give the next one a decent budget. Some really un-grounded thinking going on, or just sheer neglect. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <j_alexander_stanley@...> wrote : I haven't been in the dome in 21 years, and it was the mold that finally drove me out of there. It was the summer of '94, when we had the huge Midwest floods, and water was flowing into the basement of the men's dome like a sieve because they had originally just pushed dirt up against the foundation without applying any kind of waterproofing or drains. I'd walk in the door, and my lungs would freeze up; so, I'd take a deep breath, walk in, kick off my shoes, and head upstairs, where the air was better. But, I kept coming out of program with headaches. At that point, the only reason I went to the dome was Petra insisting on it, and I finally put my foot down and kicked my flying wings to the curb. As for the dome, itself, my recollection is that on top of all that beautiful woodwork is foam insulation (probably sprayed on) and topped with some kind of protective membrane. I doubt there's much in the way of new-age hippy roofing material that could be used on such a structure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote : I would be *very* concerned about the persistent reports of organic mold too, within the structure. No 'suspected' about that stuff - it can be fatal, getting into the lungs. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Question- What is the toxic substance being used? How long is it toxic for? Does it dissipate? Is there a better ,longer lasting, cost effective substance to use? Is the *organic* mold in the domes any less toxic? How old are the Amish workers? Are they currently out of school and doing summer work? Are they union? Are they undercutting union workers? I would imagine the substance being used on the domes is some sort of sealer and wood preserver, among other things, and that would mean some sort of either creosote or petroleum product as in tar. These things are carcinogenic, as are a multitude of other products including glues, foams etc. Unfortunately, undertaking a heavy duty roofing job has to include toxic materials as I don't believe the Iowa weather is conducive to banana leaves or palm fronds providing adequate cover over a shelter. On the other hand, workmen should be adequately protected against these fumes and other ways in which these waterproofers and sealers can get all over you. To be working without respirators and adequate suits and gloves would be idiotic and most likely against the law. From: "Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FFL Post <fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 11:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Toxics, the dome and the Amish. Not green. Not leadership. Not Cool. Of possible interest here... ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Fairfield Citizen karlherzl2008@... [FairfieldLife]" <fairfieldlife-nore...@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife-nore...@yahoogroups.com> To: fairfieldlife-ow...@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife-ow...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 11:44 AM Subject: Toxics, the dome and the Amish. Not green. Not leadership. Not Cool. Hello - Perhaps the group could offer insights into this controversy. It appears the repair job on the roof of the meditation dome for men is being done with highly toxic, suspected carcinogenic, chemical products, and Amish contractors who use teenage laborers. Some of these laborers appear very young. No safety gear appears to be in use. Questions: Why is the college using toxic (suspected carcinogen) products on the dome roof repair? Why is the college not requiring protective equipment on adults and teens working on the roof as a condition of the contract? (Harnesses, respirators, clothing) Is the roof repair project genuinely compliant with Iowa and Federal law regarding dangerous workplaces and children? Is the system being gamed? Why is a college that offers degrees in sustainable living, and loudly touts itself as organic, sustainable, Non-GMO and "conscious" using toxic chemicals on the roof of their meditation dome? Why didn't the college insist on the use of green products, consult with green experts or follow LEEDS best-practices and guidelines? A survey asking for community feedback about these issues was shared today: https://surveyplanet.com/preview/55ed8b0a4f05a0ab3c6fbe27 https://surveyplanet.com/preview/55ed8b0a4f05a0ab3c6fbe27 Thanks - Karl
