--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > But the idea of starting with concentration or focus
> > > and then moving to a more effortless focus *in the 
> > > same meditation period* is hardly unique. Many of
> > > the concentration techniques I've learned were like
> > > that -- you start with a strong period of focus on 
> > > a yantra or mantra or image or whatever, and then
> > > "let go" and have a period of no focus. Sometimes
> > > the technique involves "bouncing back and forth"
> > > between these two approaches in the same meditation.
> > > 
> > > Caveat for the easily offended: The above statement
> > > implies neither good nor bad, better nor best; it's
> > > just what I was taught when learning those techniques.
> > > It isn't meant as a comment on your favorite style of
> > > meditation in any way.
> > 
> > In MY experience, that's the "worst-case" example of effort 
during 
> > TM. You start out deliberately thinking the mantra, and then you 
> > forget to think it. Rinse, repeat. OTher times, its not quite so 
> > obvious that one is deliberately doing something. Other times, it 
> > seems obvious that there is no doing, just happening.
> 
> Ummmm...in case you didn't notice, I wasn't describing
> TM. I was describing other forms of meditation.
>

And, apparently you missed this: I was pointing out that 
these "other" forms of meditation CAN BE inherent in TM practice. 
They just arise spontaneously.





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