don't have a goal I am trying to lead readers to. I could answer many
of the questions from different angles with different answers. But I
find such questions useful in clarifying core assumptions. Even the
most interesting -- those we assume are "given", true a priori.
A more specific response to your points later.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 5/24/06 12:29 AM, new_morning_blank_slate at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > Is there already a silent presumption that Tolle is "realized" -- and
> > thus a parallel presumption that his words are valid and/or relevant?
>
> He says he is, and speaks as though he is.
>
> > Do you find the words inspiring and uplifting in-and-of-themselves
> > --- regardless of the source of, and presumptions about, the speaker?
>
> Yes.
> >
> > For example, would one find the words inspiring and uplifting if the
> > speaker was acknowledged as clearly unqualified to know anything about
> > realization?
>
> Acknowledged by whom? You could give me a print out of his writing,
without
> telling me who wrote it, and I would probably find it inspiring and
> uplifting (a better phrase might be that it brings greater clarity to my
> understanding, and thus my experience).
> >
> > If not, then wouldn't one already be making some degree of unprovable
> > assumption about the speaker's level of consciousness?
> >
> > If the above is so -- that one is already making some degree of
> > unprovable assumption -- presumbable its not a well-examined
> > assumption. Is it a useful assumption? How would views change if the
> > assumptions about the source were dropped?
> >
> > Do we tend to believe somethings from one source, but tend to
> > disbeleive the same words from another source that we have
> > pre-characterized, pre-judged, pegged a certain way? Same words,
> > different source. Does the source make a difference in the value,
> > relevance, validity and inspiration drawn from the same words?
>
> Each person might answer that differently. I answered it above.
> >
> > Is the opposite of Tolle's words also at least partly true? (Fully
> > true? More true than the original statement?) If the words are both
> > true and untrue, what is their validity and value?
>
> I suppose, but I'd find it difficult to meaningfully phrase
opposites to his
> words. He's speaking some pretty simple and basic truths.
> >
> > Can one be falsely inspired and uplifted? Many proclamations,
> > initiatives and themes of the TMO inspired many us in the past. At
> > least some now seem empty -- a false inspiration. Inspired by a
> > phantom, a vacuum, by something of little substance.
>
> Druva was uplifted by a clay statue of his teacher, without his
teacher's
> knowledge. Was that false? It worked, so I guess not.
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