Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ken stops his brainwaves

[Vaj]

On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:40 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: By request. Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a standard   home unit used in Neuro-feedback. Ever hear of a TMer doing a blank wave? No, I'm sure you haven't... You've posted this here before, as I recall, Vaj. Yes, that's right Judy. Thanks for noticing. :-) Explain to us again (a) why we should be impressed that Wilber can do a "blank wave" on a home EEG unit; Because of the *style* of samadhi this is indicative of (to put it in TM lingo) is that of Unity Consciousness. However it should also be noted this relates to a different path than PC -> CC -> eventually leads to UC. Instead it should be seen as UC grasped as the path (unusual because you are taking UC *as the path*, rather than as an *end state*) and maturing into BC (to use the TM metaphor). and (b) why we should be disheartened (or gleeful, if we're TM critics) that we've never heard of a TMer doing a "blank wave"? Because we should realize and make the connection that *dualistic methods lead to dualistic states of consciousness* (e.g. the witnessing artifact, which is an artifact of a dualistic meditation method). That's not in any way to imply that dualistic states of meditation are *bad* or *lesser* than other forms of meditation. Instead they should be understood as a continuum naturally occurring in meditative praxis. However, it should not be missed that *one is much faster than the other!* Well, here it is: http://www.tinyurl.com/cmay6 (bottom of the page) Eventually we'll see similar technology used to qualify and verify those claiming certain states (e.g. someone claiming access to a  non-dual state should be able to make a "flat" EEG). Oh, and while you're at it, (c) why making a "flat" EEG (on a home machine) should be considered a requirement for those claiming access to a nondual state? It's not a *requirement*, merely one possible, measurable signature...that's all. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___