--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:40 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > >> > >> By request. > >> > >> Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a standard > >> home unit used in Neuro-feedback. > >> > >> Ever hear of a TMer doing a blank wave? > >> > >> No, I'm sure you haven't... > > > > You've posted this here before, as I recall, Vaj. > > Yes, that's right Judy. Thanks for noticing. :-) > > > > > Explain to us again (a) why we should be impressed > > that Wilber can do a "blank wave" on a home EEG > > unit; > > Because of the *style* of samadhi this is indicative of (to put it > in TM lingo) is that of Unity Consciousness.
And we know that a "blank wave" on a home EEG unit is indicative of a Unity Consciousness style of samadhi because...? > However it should also be noted this relates to a different path > than -> PC -> CC -> eventually leads to UC. It sure is. Instead it should be seen as UC > grasped as the path (unusual because you are taking UC *as the path*, > rather than as an *end state*) and maturing into BC (to use the TM > metaphor). > > > and (b) why we should be disheartened (or > > gleeful, if we're TM critics) that we've never heard > > of a TMer doing a "blank wave"? > > Because we should realize and make the connection that *dualistic > methods lead to dualistic states of consciousness* (e.g. the > witnessing artifact, which is an artifact of a dualistic > meditation method). But which (as you know, and just said above) is a transitional feature in terms of UC. We still need to know, however, why a "blank wave" on a home EEG machine should be assumed to represent a nondual state of consciousness (and presumably why "nonblank waves" on a home EEG machine should be assumed to represent a dualistic state of consciousness). That's not in any way to imply that dualistic states of > meditation are *bad* or *lesser* than other forms of meditation. > Instead they should be understood as a continuum naturally occurring > in meditative praxis. However, it should not be missed that *one is > much faster than the other!* > > > > >> Well, here it is: > >> > >> http://www.tinyurl.com/cmay6 > >> > >> (bottom of the page) > >> > >> Eventually we'll see similar technology used to qualify and verify > >> those claiming certain states (e.g. someone claiming access to a > >> non-dual state should be able to make a "flat" EEG). > > > > Oh, and while you're at it, (c) why making a "flat" EEG > > (on a home machine) should be considered a requirement > > for those claiming access to a nondual state? > > It's not a *requirement*, merely one possible, measurable > signature...that's all. OK, that's not what you said, however. I guess you just miswrote. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
