--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> wrote: > > > > You are getting sucked into the conventional wisdom regarding how to > > measure stuff like consciousness. > > i am not getting sucked into anything. I have not stated my views. > > I am simply pointing out that the TMO and MMY has a cleary different > view than you on the physiological correlates of higher states, and > what those higher states are -- and their manifest attributes in the > physiology of the liberated one.
MMY also? Are you sure of that? > > While each state of awareness is > > physiologically distinct, I am not convinced each can be measured by > > today's scientific instruments. > > Clearly you are not. MMY and the TMO clearly are. Again, MMY also? You cannot prove that. Her appears to converge towards the instruments, but has never stated unequivocally that higher states can be measured with today's instruments. Thus there is a huge > different in your views. And maifest attributes of higher states. And > what the states are. > > That is what is so funny. You "experience" something. Probably grand. > However you interpret in a particular way that what you experience is > TMO/ MMY BC. Yet you have never discussed your experience with MMY. > Or even with someone, or many, from what i can tell, who have. > > Yet you know MMY is quite particular, specific, very picky IMO, about > experiences. Particulary UC/BC. And as john said, he is not impressed > with "experiences" and imaginations without corresponding clear > sidhis. Yet you continue to claim MMY BC. Its entertaining. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/