--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "suziezuzie" <msilver1951@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > When someone starts meditating, is the flatness (separation of Self 
> > from sense perception) that they begin to feel is a prelude to 
> Cosmic 
> > Consciousness or the beginnings of personality pathology that has 
> > nothing to do with enlightenment?
> > 
> > A prelude to CC is the understanding given to us by the TM 
> movement. 
> > Personality disorder, depersonalization, etc., is the explanation 
> given 
> > by the TM critics. How do we verify which is true? The state of 
> > flatness as a prelude to CC would be measured by increasing 
> > stabilization of Self as defined by what CC is. Personality 
> disorders 
> > such as spaciness, depersonalization, etc., would be confirmed by 
> > observations of pathology. So who should we believe, the TMO or the 
> TM 
> > Critics. Is this 'flatness of perception a pathology or a natural, 
> > normal prelude to enlightenment defined as stabilized Self 
> throughout 
> > the three states of consciousness? Mark
> >
> 
> ************
> 
> The experience of witnessing is a perfectly normal part of growth of 
> consciousness. The sense of seeing the body as from a distance means 
> that the identification of oneself with the body is lessening, which 
> is a good thing, because the truth of life is that the witness 
> consciousness, whose nature is blissful and infinite, is only 
> reflected by bodies depending on their purity (the more pure the 
> nervous system, the greater the reflected consciousness).
> 
> Because TMers experience growth of awareness, they are less 
> overwhelmed by activity and the environment -- this is why they begin 
> to feel distanced, just witnesses to the activity. This is a sign of 
> strength, not pathology.
>

Heh. First time I've heard that witnessing involves seeing the body from a 
distance. 
SOunds more like someone is having a pathological state and is indulging in 
some wishful 
thinking...


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