---Vaj, I know you're heavily into "tradition" but there's something called "new knowledge"; but ultimately, the idea is to seek the truth, whether from tradition, authorities, Scriptures, one's own experience, heresay evidence;...better yet, everything together with one's own experience at the top of the list. This separates the true Gnostics from the TB. I see no reason to separate karma from stress and say it's only karma. Why not get rid of the bad karma AND the stress, on all levels. It's not an either/or proposition, unless one's Guru is only adept at helping you one one level and not another.
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On May 25, 2007, at 9:23 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > > This just verifies what I've stated here numerous times, that the > > TM > > > myth of physical stress release from the physical nervous system > > was > > > fallacious. Where stress is being released is in the pranic body > > or > > > vajra body. It is the pranic body that evolves. > > > > > > > I don't understand the inconsistency between MMY's position, your's, > > and Muktananda's. > > > > Whether it's the "pranic body or vajra body" (although I'm not sure > > what "vajra body" is), isn't that still on the relative level? > > Whether it's actual physical body or subtle, the stress (or karma) is > > still stored there and has to be released. > > Karma is what tradition would state, not "stress". Generally one > would practice a technique to resolve the karmic eddies that still > exist in the pranic body. Once practicing such a technique, then one > can follow various signs to see how that's working. MMY's position is > a marketable one, that's all, otherwise it's utterly fallacious and > misleading. Muktananda just touches on some basics, but does give an > idea of what is involved. >