Curtis wrote: > Doesn't this seem to contradict MMY's own account of what > happened after Guru Dev died and how the movement started? > You can't seem to pass up any chance to diss the Marshy! Are you obsessed or what? Haven't you and Rick done enough damage on this forum already? Is it alright with you if some of us TMers discus our program for just one minute without you two butting in? Just for one minute.
No, it's the same account that Marshy related to me at Mother Olsen's. And the same account has been published by Marshy's Uncle Raj Varma. > By his own account he sat in Uttar Kashi without any > thoughts for two years until he had the thought to go > South to Rameshwarum (Sp?) > According to Marshy, the thought of going to 'Rameshwarum' was suggested by one of the other sadhus at Uttar Kashi - it was not Marshy's idea. > Even there he was innocently goaded into doing lectures. > Ever since his first meeting with Guru Dev, there was never a time when the Marshy wasn't giving lectures. Apparently he used to even give lectures in Guru Dev's stead, when Guru Dev was otherwise indisposed. It may be true that Marshy was observing a quiet time at Utta Kashi, but it is difficult to imagine the Marshy not speaking up! > Given MMYs delight in telling the story of his meeting > Guru Dev, I find the omission of the story of Guru Dev's > instructions to be unlikely. I think Dr. Varma was just > being creative here. > You need to start using some logic, Curtis. The story told by Dr. Varma IS the Marshy's story. How do you think that Raj Varma came up with the story in the first place? Since Dr. Varma was not present at the passing of Guru Dev, obviously Marshy told Raj Varma what had taken place. It is is a fact that there were only three people present at the untimely demise of Brahmananda, one of those being the Marshy himself. > I think if Guru Dev had given MMY this direct instruction we > would have heard about it from him. > Marshy approved of all the stories told by his uncle in the book 'Strange Facts About a Great Saint'. Marshy approved of all the stories told in the Official Biography of Guru Dev: 'The Whole Thing, The Real Thing' by Rameshwar Tilwari Marshy is the approver of all stories told about Guru Dev. Marshy is the approver of all literature connected to the TMO. They are all his stories. So, in this sense, Marshy did tell this very same story. However name 'Mahesh' doesn't appear on any of the Trust's literature and there's no mention of a 'Mahesh Yogi' being in the will as an administrator. If you accept any of the aforementioned scenarios - the poison rumor - the clerk rumor - I just don't see how a clerk is going to be sitting on the bed of a Shankaracharya, or even in the same room with one, for that matter. That is, unless you want to suggest that the Mahesh Yogi was much more than a mere clerk, much more than a secretary, which would contradict the statement by the Swami Swaroopanand in the Kropinsky interview to the effect that Mahesh Yogi was a part-time, low-level, paper pusher of low caste. If so, how did the Mahesh Yogi become so powerful that he could outsmart the Indian press and a whole committee of pundits down in Kashi? Go figure. Read more: 'The Cook Did It!' http://rwilliams.us/archives/shantanand3.htm
