I have a piece where almost the entire right hand of a piano part in one
prelude is 8va. However, there are a few occasions where it jumps an octave
higher (too many ledger lines) and lower (enough to cause ledger lines
below the staff).

There seems to be a clarity issue no matter whether I use an 8va marking or
8va treble clef.

How should I mark the second octave jump? 15ma? Then use 8va for the return
to "local" loco? If I use an 8va treble clef, does an 8va marking = true
15ma? And loco = true 8va? And then how do I mark a "true" loco with an 8va
treble clef?

The problem is a little messier because the performer does not like the 8va
clef because the '8' is so small. I can use 8va above the left staff, and
end up with a clarity problem -- unless I use buckets of dashed lines,
making yet another legibility mess he'd like to avoid.

Is there an accepted way to indicate that most of a piece is played 8va
except for certain areas played 15ma and other areas played loco? (Or,
maybe, is there just a better 8va treble clef available in somebody's font?)

Thanks,
Dennis

1) *Never* use the octave-treble clef in piano writing.

2) If most of the treble line is to be notated 8va, put the instruction "8va sempre", maybe w. a short line after it, at the beginning. For the extra-high bit, indicate 15ma--------------|, with a vertical hook at the end to show the end of the passage, and then maybe a cautionary "(8va)" (in parentheses as shown) immediately following. When the music dips low, indicate loco---------|, again with a hook, and follow it with "8va (sempre)" to reinstate the prevailing 8va notation. If the loco passage immediately follows the 15ma passage, then probably you should write "loco (non 8va)--------------|" to be absolutely sure of a correct reading.

3) Anywhere that you do use the octave-treble clef, notations of 8va, loco, etc. in the course of the music are always with reference to that clef, not to the normal treble clef. The octave-treble clef (and other such clefs) is no different from any other clef in that regard; it should not be seen as a transposing notation.

--
Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press

http://www.kallistimusic.com

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