Is the tradition on conductor scores to include horn parts 1&2 on one staff, and 3&4 on another staff (keeping the high specialists in the "upper" staff position), or to score it with 1&3/2&4 (keeping the high specialists together)? I personally think the former method is clearer, keeping more distance between the parts on each line and thus making it easier to read at a glance.

However, I have engraved it both ways, according to composer preference. Is there any historical evidence to point to one method or the other as being preferred?

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On Monday, February 23, 2004, at 09:39 AM, Robert Patterson wrote:


Oh, sure. The 1/3 Hi 2/4 Lo tradition long pre-dates Berlioz. See, for example, the little Mozart g-minor symphony (number 25)) with pairs of horns in Bb and G. Or the Haydn Hornsignal Symphony. Or even Beethoven's Ninth. Berlioz was merely documenting a practice that had begun decades earlier.

Even Berlioz departed from his own recommendation at times. Nuits d'ete at times uses 3 horns in 3 different keys, and while the 2nd part is generally lower than 1 and 3, they all cross at times. Nuits d'ete may pre-date the orchestration treatise, but Berlioz remained extremely creative with his horn key choices, and the parts often crossed as the harmonic situations demanded.

Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 23.02.2004 17:21 Uhr, John Howell wrote
Berlioz specifically
recommended using 2 pairs of horns in 2 different keys so you could
write more different notes by trading off horns.  (And this is also
the beginning of the tradition of having high specialists and low
specialists in the horn section, with 1st and 3rd, not 1st and 2nd,
being the high specialists.)
Well, I am not an expert on horn parts, but the tradition of having high and
low horn specialists must be older than that. You certainly have it in the
18th century. You didn't have 4 of them, but there were high and low parts,
and players that specialized on one of them.
Incidentally the Berlin Concertmaster Johann Gottlieb Graun produced (ie
composed) some of the most difficult (ie high) horn parts in the 18th
century.
Johannes

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