On 31 Mar 2004 at 16:47, WinSupport wrote: > I checked the 97 version to see how it compared with the 2004 version > and found that they work exactly the same in this aspect. In 97, you > could only apply blank notation to layer 1 throughout the entire staff > and the spacing ignores the blank layer. . . .
This is a factually incorrect statement. There was a special alternate notation tool that could apply blank notation to a single measure in a staff. > . . . In 2004, you can apply blank > notation to any layer throughout the entire staff and it will also > ignore the hidden notation. . . But only a full staff at a time. Applying blank notation to an entire staff layer is no more useful than simply turning off the display of that layer in document options (though it does allow doing it on a staff-by-staff basis). > . . . The problem of blank notation being > incorporated in music spacing only occurs when you use a Staff Style. This is the only method available in WinFin2K3 for having a single measure in a staff have blank notation in a particular layer. > So you could still get the same result that you received in Finale '97 > when you applied blank notation to the entire layer. No, you are simply wrong. The files that I created in WinFin97 and before with blank notation for layer 1 in individual meausures did not have blank notation for all of layer 1 -- it was measure-by-measure. > I have sent an email to the engineer who designed the Staff Styles in > Finale to see if this was the intended result. It is possible that > implementing a music spacing feature would have prohibited something > else from working properly and it could not be included with Staff > Styles without further research. I will write this up as something > you would like to see in a later version. I can see no reason for implementing "half spacing," as it exists. If you compare the spacing of the same music in blank notation in layer 1 to the same music with non-blank notation, you'll see that the measure of non-blank notation is wider. That is, the spacing of the hidden notation would not be approppriate if the music were visible. It's also wholly inappropriate when the music is *not* visible, so there is surely an unintended consequence here. > In the meantime, there are still several ways to get the result you > want. Your method of using the Edit Frame box is effective, but I'm > sure you find it tedious. One of the wonderful things about Document > Options is that you can apply them to just sections of your music > without affecting other sections. What I would do is enter all of the > music first, uncheck the spacing for layer 4 in the Document Options, > and the just apply Music Spacing only to the sections where there are > hidden notes. It will not affect the notes in layer 4 that are not > hidden, as long as you do not apply these new music spacing settings > to those measures. This is simply not possible, as spacing has to be calculated for all the staves in the score, and for all the layers, as notation in layer 4 might be more or less dense than notation in another layer. It cannot be done one measure or one layer at a time. I am not optimistic about your answer here. You don't seem to have much experience with the program. You are certainly completely wrong in your comments about WinFin97 above, as if what you say were actually true, I never would have been able to do what I was doing with blank notation measure-by-measure. You are giving workarounds to a problem that should not exist: There is no justification for invisible music affecting spacing by default. I can't even see why you'd want it as an option. -- David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associates http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
