Dear Karen,
As usual, your response is thorough, deeply knowledgeable, and generous!
I'll try to answer a few of these things, and then I'll take the time
to explore some of those that are beyond my everyday experience with
this machinery. (How do people like you and Darcy have the room in
your brains to know so much music and so much technology. I have a
feeling that the tech knowledge is something that your generation is
comfortable with - having grown up with it. It's still a little
mysterious to me, though I don't feel the complete fool all the time.)
On Jun 11, 2005, at 2:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Chuck,
I'm sure you've probably already done this but just in case...are
you running the latest version of GPO Studio? (v. 1.2)
Yes, I got it directly from Gary, and there is going to be a Tiger
update soon, according to an email I received from Gary a few days ago.
Also, in addition to all of the great suggestions that Hiro and
Darcy have given...you can also try opening your crash log files
and seeing if there is some background process that is crashing
somewhere...or...look for CrashReporter in Activity Monitor and see
if it is active (you can change views in the drop down menu in the
activity monitor window to toggle between active processes and
inactive processes among others.)
Hmmmn. I couldn't find this. Must not be looking in the right
place, but never mind because I did find the crash log files listed
below, and there were many crashes listed for the Formac Studio TV
that sits in the corner of my screen, keeping me company while I do
stuff that doesn't require all of my attention. So I quit that
application.
Interestingly, at the moment of responding to your suggestions, GPO
had been on long enough to have reached its trouble level, and the
activity monitor showed it at 75% of the CPU (and green right up to
the top of the window!). The computer was behaving in just the
recalcitrant ways I have described earlier, so I quit GPO, and
everything smoothed out to normal.
Then I restarted GPO, with the activity monitor window open, so that
I could watch what was happening. Here's the sequence:
Double click on the particular GPO document I want to open (my silly
little imitation jazz band setup); it doesn't open, but GPO Studio
application does; opening the application takes up all the CPU
activity (substantial red showing at the bottom of the CPU activity
window - indicating system usage, and the rest, green all the way to
the top - indicating process usage); the activity then settles down
to a reasonable proportion, but I must double click the GPO document
again to get it to open. This starts a similar pattern in the
activity monitor window which eventually settles down into what
appears to me to be a reasonable and stable situation, with GPO using
about 16% of the CPU (lots of black left above the green).
So the question I have, asked in what I imagine to be some naivete,
is (please excuse the split infinitive): what is happening during the
period between starting GPO and the time it decides to hog the CPU
(some hours - maybe 24 or so), and is this something GPO or Kontact
can fix? Or can I?
It really isn't that big a deal to me to restart GPO every day or so,
but it seems to indicate a problem that will need repair before Mac
users can rely on this software. I hope it can be solved, because I
now have a little personal involvement with GPO, and that's fun for
me, but it will not be, if I am unable to recommend it to friends. I
have less than a hand in this - maybe a fingernail, and I am trying
to get Gary to address the issue, but I think he's not really a tech
guy and may not understand the significance of it. I did ask him to
put me in contact with the guy who takes care of this for him, but he
has yet to do it. Wait! I just found his email, so I will copy some
of this correspondence to him, and we'll see what happens.
Meanwhile, I am grateful for the attention I have gotten from those
of you who have responded with suggestions, and I'll keep you all
posted as I hear from Gary's tech guy.
Thanks,
Chuck
To check your crash log files:
Applications>Utilities>Console>Click on the Logs button>Click on
the triangle next to ~/Library/Logs>Click on triangle next to
CrashReporter. Then look through the logs and see if any of them
are being currently written to.
I had this happen to me with a process called dmnotifyd (a dot mac
process) which was was crashing at the time...my system was showing
some odd behavior and my backup program kept hanging up. My iDisk
wasn't mounting correctly and/or it lost connection to the .Mac
server. After I reset my iDisk settings my system was happy again.
A couple of other thoughts: are you running Quickeys and have you
updated to the most recent version? (v. 3.02...must be done for
Tiger) Did you use Carbon Copy Cloner for a backup program in
Panther? If so, did you have it set to backup automatically? CCC
no longer works in Tiger so if it is still installed and you did a
straight upgrade to Tiger something could be crashing there (look
to see if psync is running in your Acitivity monitor...)
You can also start up on your Tiger install disk and run Disk
Utility from the install disk...run verify disk (First Aid Tab) and
if necessary repair disk...
Also, the ever important repair permissions which you can run from
Disk Utility..you don't have to be running off of the startup disk
to do this.
Lastly (I promise :-)) There are maintenance scripts that run on
the computer at night that are built into the OS. If one is in the
habit of turning the computer off or if it goes to sleep at night,
they don't run. Also, with Tiger there is a bug with the
scheduling of these scripts...so if you don't restart your computer
daily, the scripts may not run.
I have my machine set up to wake itself up in the middle of the
night via Energy Saver so Cocktail can run (Tiger version is out
and very fast!) I have set up Cocktail to run on it's scheduler...
(pilot...making sure run cron scripts box is checked.) Then my
backup program runs on it's scheduler and puts the machine back to
sleep when it has finished running.
-K
Hi folks,
I have asked about this before, and not been able to resolve the
problem despite suggestions from Darcy and Hiro, so I simply put
up with it and re-boot whenever necessary. But there's something
wrong, and I think it has to do with GPO. I'd like to understand
it better, so I'm describing it again in the hope of gleaning
something useful from people who know more about computers "under
the hood" than I do.
G 5 with newly installed mucho RAM (3.5 GB) which I thought might
help but didn't. Tiger OS.
I run GPO, which takes two double clicks to open - one for the GPO
Studio, and another for the specific set of sounds. Then I open
Finale, which also, stubbornly, takes two starts; one to get the
program running and another to open the file. I can't remember if
this reluctant and annoying behavior started with Tiger or with
the installation of GPO in Panther (sorry).
I am only using a half a dozen samples - bassoons as a poor
substitute for saxes, trumpets, trombones, grand piano (very nice
- seems to me), and thumpy pizz. bass (kind of awful). No strings
etc. at the moment, though I don't know if these sounds are
lurking in the background and using up processing power, since
the inner workings of this are mysterious to me.
Things then run OK for awhile, maybe as long as 24 hours, but
eventually the computer begins to choke up and stutter.
Everything not only slows down, but sound, keyboard and mouse
response, become intermittent to the point of uselessness, and a
restart is required. This then solves the problem for another
similar period.
I have learned to look at the activity monitor, though I'm not
sure I understand all its implications. One thing, however, seems
awry, and that is that GPO is hogging between 65 and 75% of the
CPU. Does that seem right?
I may be naive with regard to the integration of some kind of
acceptable "sketch" sounds with Finale (I'm not trying to get much
more than that out of this), but it does seem to me that I am not
alone in wanting to be able to access better than GM sounds and
attach them to Finale in a simple
setup process that will work seamlessly in the background. From a
personal standpoint (sitpoint?), learning to control Finale has
taken quite a while, and the information needed to use it takes up
considerable space in this old CPU of a brain of mine. I'd love
to avoid the need to learn a bunch of other arcane things just to
get better than GM playback.
I'll forward a copy of this to Gary Garritan and ask him to send
it on to his programming person to see if some light can be shed
from their end.
TIA for your thoughts.
Chuck
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