John, I agree in principle with your statement about the past repeating itself, railing preachers, etc...but as the parent of a 16-year-old son and a 12-year old daughter, I ask the following: Did Benny Goodman's music regularly refer to women as "hos" and "bitches"? Did Elvis's music openly advocate killing policemen? Did swing music openly advocate sexual promiscuity with no regard to its physical or emotional consequences? (well, I might have to concede some there...) Did Bessie Smith videos (yes, there are a few, I believe) feature her 3/4 naked and writhing in simulated orgasmic ecstasy? etc... As much as I may hate to admit it, I have come to believe that today's "music" is indeed worse than it was in the past, and I find myself struggling--as a performer AND as a parent--to cope with the current stuff...or am I too caught up in today to see history properly? Though my kids are young, I am 54, so I have seen/heard a lot of the (r)evolution leading to current trends. Jim
________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of John Howell Sent: Fri 31-Mar-06 9:41 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] music literacy At 7:49 AM -0500 3/31/06, Lawrence David Eden wrote: >I think that what we are discussing here comes under the category of >musical taste as well as music literacy. > >My daughter is an accomplished high school musician. She plays >beautiful flute and sings 1st soprano in her school's madrigal group >and choir...but you probably don't want to copy her iTunes folder! >I can't believe some of the garbage she listens to. When I compare >this to the popular music that I grew up with in the 60's, I am >appalled at what passes for music today. Oh, but parents were appalled at what passed for music in the '60s and '70s (and '80s, I can assure you!), and preachers thundered against Rock 'n' Roll as the ruination of our youth, and my father and I really enjoyed the middle-of-the-road dreck that passed as popular music in the '40s and '50s (Sing Along with Mitch, two, three, four), and preachers thundered against Ragtime and Jazz and bobbed hair and short skirts as the ruination of our youth, etc., etc., ad infinitum. What you're saying is that your daughter's age group is more open minded and inclusive in their definition of music, and isn't that a Good Thing? "Well, ya got trouble my friends, right here, I say trouble right here in River City ..." John (a classical musician who spent 20+ years as a professional entertainer) -- John & Susie Howell Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
John, I agree in principle with your statement about the past repeating itself, railing preachers, etc...but as the parent of a 16-year-old son and a 12-year old daughter, I ask the following: Did Benny Goodman's music regularly refer to women as "hos" and "bitches"? Did Elvis's music openly advocate killing policemen? Did swing music openly advocate sexual promiscuity with no regard to its physical or emotional consequences? (well, I might have to concede some there...) Did Bessie Smith videos (yes, there are a few, I believe) feature her 3/4 naked and writhing in simulated orgasmic ecstasy? etc... As much as I may hate to admit it, I have come to believe that today's "music" is indeed worse than it was in the past, and I find myself struggling--as a performer AND as a parent--to cope with the current stuff...or am I too caught up in today to see history properly? Though my kids are young, I am 54, so I have seen/heard a lot of the (r)evolution leading to current trends. Jim ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of John Howell Sent: Fri 31-Mar-06 9:41 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] music literacy At 7:49 AM -0500 3/31/06, Lawrence David Eden wrote: >I think that what we are discussing here comes under the category of >musical taste as well as music literacy. > >My daughter is an accomplished high school musician. She plays >beautiful flute and sings 1st soprano in her school's madrigal group >and choir...but you probably don't want to copy her iTunes folder! >I can't believe some of the garbage she listens to. When I compare >this to the popular music that I grew up with in the 60's, I am >appalled at what passes for music today. Oh, but parents were appalled at what passed for music in the '60s and '70s (and '80s, I can assure you!), and preachers thundered against Rock 'n' Roll as the ruination of our youth, and my father and I really enjoyed the middle-of-the-road dreck that passed as popular music in the '40s and '50s (Sing Along with Mitch, two, three, four), and preachers thundered against Ragtime and Jazz and bobbed hair and short skirts as the ruination of our youth, etc., etc., ad infinitum. What you're saying is that your daughter's age group is more open minded and inclusive in their definition of music, and isn't that a Good Thing? "Well, ya got trouble my friends, right here, I say trouble right here in River City ..." John (a classical musician who spent 20+ years as a professional entertainer) -- John & Susie Howell Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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