> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Smith > Sent: 04 May 2006 19:56 > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: Re: [Finale] RE: [Olist] Sibelius/Finale question > (Eek,I openeda can of worms) > > > > On May 4, 2006, at 11:22 AM, Owain Sutton wrote: > >> You can enter the half-sharps and whatnot as > >> articulations, > >> and they will be automatically placed and spaced (except > for chords, > >> yikes!) though you won't get microtonal playback. (Frankly, the > >> barriers involved in correct microtonal playback of harmony > >> instruments > >> is so great I'm not sure it is doable in normal MIDI. > >> Individual notes > >> in single lines, of course, are fine.) > >> > > > > > > Yes, I meant key signature ;) > > > > This sounds like a fudge masquerading as a well-designed > > implementation. > > Entering them as articulations doesn't sound very helpful > when dealing > > with transposition, for instance. > > > > I'm not trying to sound difficult here, but how exactly would > you like > microtones implemented, and how would they transpose? I have > only dealt > with quarter tones, and I would rather spell them manually on > transposed parts than depend on Finale to spell them correctly. The > articulations-as-quarter sharp or flat actually work very well with > metatools; very fast and dependable. You DO have to check transposed > parts, of course. > > I'm trying to imagine the interface, and I'm failing. Maybe > shift + for > half sharp? Then what would 3/4 sharp be? Maybe shift + on a > note that > already has a sharp? But then there are all kinds of other divisions, > like 1/3 sharp or flat, and how would you enter those? >
Once I get a microtonal key signature set up, yes, I use the +1/2 and -1/2 options in Simple Entry to modify pitches up and down through the range of accidentals. And I don't see why it's unreasonable to expect transposition to work correctly - especially as such scores are more likely to be in C and therefore need transposed parts when extracted. > > >> What more do you need than length, > >> endpoints, and > >> horizontal placement that can't be done with note > >> expressions? Can you > >> be more specific? > >> > >> > > > > The Staff Style stem settings don't let you change the normal stem > > length or the stem line thickness. These can only be done globally, > > which I've found to be an issue in the past. > > The endpoint away from the notehead is the stem length. It can be > changed in a Staff Style. > You mean the 'use vertical offset for beam end' option? It doesn't appear to modify the normal stem length in the same way as in Document Settings, but rather extends all stems to a particular horizontal position. > It's true that you can't make the stems THINNER, but you can > make them > thicker by overlaying a note expression or articulation that > is set to > position automatically. You could even make thin stems by hiding the > stems completely and adding a thin stem line as an expression. Once > again, if you set it up carefully to auto position, you could > work very > quickly from then on. I could see how you could hold down the thick > stem articulation metatool, drag over an entire passage, and when you > release the mouse, every note has a thick stem. > The whole point of this exchange is to identify failures in the software. Having to jump through these hoops to achieve something very simple, because it can only have one setting per document, is a failing in my eyes. _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
