At 1:14 PM +0100 2/22/08, shirling & neueweise wrote:
"From a copyist, composers generally [expect] their score to be copied exactly as they gave it, no more and no less."

i won't say where this came from other than to mention it is from a composer and was sent to an experienced and diligent copyist i know.

I think that in order to answer your implied question we really have to go back to the days of hand copying, from Bach (and before) through the 1960s and 1970s when copy services in many musical centers were doing constant good business because of the high demand for their services. Since I was working from the West Coast in the '60s, my choice was Cameo Music, 1527 1/2 Vine Street, Hollywood. (Lord; why do I even remember the address?!!!)

i know there are copyists that also feel this way, but i've always felt that the copyist's most important role is to improve the performers' relation with the music, which means in some cases slight editing and corrections (notational standards, obvious typos/errors etc.)

I don't think it is possible to lay down any hard and fast rule. It depends entirely on the relationship between the composer (or arranger, of course) and the copyist (still thinking mainly about the pre-computer days). It depends on whether the composer produces a complete, readable, full score with every detail in place or a sketch which invites the copyist to function also as orchestrator or perhaps co-orchestrator. But it is up to the composer/arranger to make the decision whether to hire you as an editor or just as a copyist, and the fee you ask should reflect the difference. If you're told "as is," you produce "as is." And "obvious typos/errors" go way back to monks using feathers!!! No copyist is free from errors.

and in others actually arguing points with the composer that you know to be true, because you have spoken to dozens upon dozens of composers, performers, copyists and musicologists and have gleaned and considered various perspectives on notation standards, tendencies, alterations etc. and have a braod understanding of what the norms are and when it is pertinent to break them and when it is not.

This is not nearly as clear cut. If the agreement between composer and copyist permits this kind of relationship, terrific. Then you're being hired because of your expertise as well as your hand. And of course "the norms" are quite different in different parts of the music business, especially between jazz vs. classical, concert music vs. Broadway or film scores, show music that will never have a complete rehearsal, or avant guard and therefore notationally challenging music. In that case, yes, I think you owe the composer your feedback on "the way it's being done and the way it's expected to be." But we all know where the buck stops!


further, in my view -- as a composer and as a copyist -- the composer is not always the person who "knows best" about their scores exactly because of the fact that they have spent so many months on the composition that they cannot distance themselves from things that actually hinder a proper rendition of the score by a performer who has not spent the same kind of obsessive focus (tunnel vision?) on the score. (this is not a comment on performer disengagement, that is another discussion altogether).

This strikes me as being a weak justification for taking over as co-composer. You imply that you, who get the score cold and have spent NO time studying or analyzing it, have a clearer idea of the composer's intentions than the composer him- or herself, and I simply don't buy into that.

But never forget that you're talking about a free, unregulated marketplace. If you have your standards and make them clear to potential clients, and if you get hired BECAUSE those standards are accepted and respected, you'll get work. If you put down your client and try to browbeat him or her into changing their habits you'll probably never hear from that particular client again.

And yes, I'm perfectly aware that computer engraving is a whole new ballgame from hand copying. Back in the day, every copyist had his own hand, and composer/arrangers would choose a copyist because they liked his product and got the results they wanted. (Or, in the case of Broadway books from the Golden Age, apparently because he was somebody's brother-in-law!) Today every "copyist" tries to look like publisher engravings, and there's much less room for individualism. And that's just the way it is. (But PLEASE don't put bar numbers every 5 bars!)

John


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