On 22 Mar 2008, at 9:10 AM, shirling & neueweise wrote:
For the curious:
Finally, hide all the triplets and render the partial triplets
graphically.
in this example you would only need it on m2-3, then m1 notated
normally.
Well, mm.2-4, actually, with m.1 and m.5 notated normally, but yeah --
only the measures with partial triplets need to be bracketed with
whole-measure triplets.
great solution, but i don't like the fact that you can't actually
use finale's tuplets at all in your explanation. so i would add
another tuplet 2:2 on last 2 in m2 (hide number, place manually as
expression),
Michael Gordon's notation is just a "3" below each note for partial
tuplets (no brackets), but I didn't like that so I tried to figure out
how to do incomplete tuplet brackets. I think this looks much better.
So I ended up trying exactly what you describe above, and ran into the
same problem you found with the tuplet numbers:
the space where the number should be shrinks when there is no
number, so best solution would be to use a shape expression with
white box behind the number; would have to piddle with it to see if
best as note-attached or measure-attached... except that GODDAMMIT
it doesn't actually work, the tuplet draws in front of the white box
grrrrrrrrrr.
"grrrrrrrrrr" indeed -- and it's probably unreasonable to expect we'll
get much love from MM on this. (That is, unless Michael Gordon himself
wants to call up MM... but I believe he uses Sibelius.)
well, a judiciously-place text expression 3 is still very readable
in the smaller space.
Yeah -- I messed around with a few alternate solutions, but I found
that this was probably the least bad one.
you could also use a note-attached custom smart shape that might
react at least partially correct in the event of changes, but you
couldn't bracket the full duration without worrying about having to
reposition. measure-attached custon smart shape would work better
for full duration, but it wouldn't move vertically at all if
anything is changed.
Haven't tried either of those -- I should experiment more. Once I got
the correct playback, I got distracted trying to learn to play this
figure. It is not easy! The guy on the Icebreaker recording of
"Trance" is pretty good, but even he scuffles a bit, especially when
he's trying to keep it steady against all the other parts.
Cheers,
- DJA
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