Hi Robert, I agree the lack of visual feedback regarding transposition changes is a serious problem and needs fixing.
On the other hand, the old system of using staff styles for instrument changes was severely broken. When clearing measures of entries (via the clear key), the instrument staff style would also be cleared, and constantly needed to be reapplied. (It was frustratingly easy to forget, and to be left with untransposed passages mixed in with transposed passages in the parts.) Transposition staff styles would sometimes be active in the score, but not the parts. And the "copyability" cuts both ways -- it was far too easy to accidentally copy a transposition from one staff to another, when you only wanted to copy the entries. Also, it is now MUCH easier to obtain correct playback on staves with instrument changes -- no more messing around with keyswitches or channel-changing expressions. Once MakeMusic adds visual feedback indicating instrument changes, I'll be quite happy with the Score Manager. It really is a dramatic improvement over using Staff Styles for instrument changes. Cheers, - DJA ----- WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 15 Feb 2012, at 9:29 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: > I am just a newbie to Fin12, but I am coming to really hate the Score > Manager. I suppose if I had never learned the old way it wouldn't seem so > bad, but I'm an old dog, and this seems like a new trick of little value. > > Up until now I had refrained from whining about the Score Manager because I > hadn't really worked with it for real and because I couldn't see that it > was really worse, rather just (arbitrarily) different. But this issue of > change of transposition seems like a regression to me. Under the new scheme > I can no longer look at the page and see where the transposition changes > are. (Before, you could turn on staff style display and see at a glance.) > Also, it means you can no longer copy a transposition from one area to > another the way you could copy staff styles. (At least with my Mass Copy > plugin, although I think it was possible in Finale itself too.) > > Someone explain to me why I am a whiner. > > R > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Christopher Smith < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> That's okay, I had missed it entirely myself and had to get this technique >> from Tech Support. So I pass it on! >> >> Christopher >> >> >> On Wed Feb 15, at WednesdayFeb 15 8:16 AM, Bernard Nussbaumer wrote: >> >>> Great, thanks Christopher, >>> >>> I did look in the Help Files, but not in the best place... I should have >>> read more carefully the "Score Manager" chapter; as English isn't my >>> primary language, I understand almost everything I read in the Help >> Files, >>> but sometimes I miss something important (while trying to understand >>> quickly) ... >>> >>> Bernard >>> >>> >>> 2012/2/15 Christopher Smith <[email protected]> >>> >>>> You go to the part, open the Score Manager. Only the part you are in >> will >>>> show. Click Unlink All Instruments in This Staff and you can change >>>> instruments without it showing in the score. You can do this to create >>>> alternate parts, too, like bass clef trombone and Bb treble clef >> trombone >>>> using the same score staff, without having to add and hide additional >> score >>>> staves. >>>> >>>> Christopher >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue Feb 14, at TuesdayFeb 14 6:21 PM, Bernard Nussbaumer wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> (Finale 2012 - Windows) >>>>> >>>>> In the "Staff Styles" Window, the transposition and the clef settings >>>> have >>>>> disappeared (since these settings are to be found in the Score >> Manager). >>>>> I need to set a part as a transposed instrument, but I don't want the >>>>> transposition to apply in the Score. >>>>> >>>>> Any ideas? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Bernard >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Finale mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Finale mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Finale mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Finale mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
