Just for the record, I also want most of the things you listed.  And I 
think you identified the nub of the problem.  As Finale (or any other 
notation product) exists today, it is in fact a zero sum game because it 
is a closed system where only MakeMusic (and a few plug-in developers) 
can deliver the functions.

THAT IS THE PROBLEM.

The iphone isn't so popular because it is a great phone.  It isn't 
substantially better from other phones.  But there is a vast library of 
apps that integrate with the phone.

All DAWs (mostly) have the same functions.  The real power is the third 
party suppliers that add functions via VSTs.

What we need is a more open framework where third parties can bring in 
the real value.  And part of what makes the VST market so successful is 
that the same VST can work on 9 different DAWs, so the VST author has a 
much broader market that can reward his innovation.

I realize I'm probably tilting at windmills to imagine that something 
like this could ever happen for the notation world.  But some of this 
would be possible if Finale simply had Rewire support and better VST 
support, which doesn't seem like too much to ask.

P.S.  I'm still getting my head around your Brooklyn Babylon CD. That is 
great stuff.  I made the mistake of ripping it to MP3 for playing in my 
car, but that got the tracks out of sequence, which really is a musical 
crime in this case.  So I guess I'll have to use the CD in my car, but 
when I do that I usually lose the CD inside of about 3 days.


On 9/17/2013 12:20 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
> While I respect Craig's list of priorities, it's pretty much the opposite of 
> what I want.
>
> (I also recognize that what Craig wants is probably closer to what the market 
> wants than what I want… )
>
> What I want is a music notation program that makes much more intelligent 
> engraving choices automatically, without having to invoke plug-ins.
>
> I want automatic vertical spacing that is actually functional.
>
> When adjusting vertical spacing, I want to be able to specify that dragging 
> staves should move them by increments of one staff space unless I specify 
> otherwise. I also want to be able to specify when I want to keep the 
> bottommost staff of a system in place, and when I want it to move.
>
> I want courtesy accidentals that update automatically and make intelligent 
> decisions based on musical parameters (i.e., on tied notes at the beginning 
> of a new system, following a multimeasure rest on the same system, octave 
> displacements, etc).
>
> I want articulations that are set to appear outside slurs to actually avoid 
> slur tips.
>
> I want tuplet brackets that are longer than slurs to go outside the slurs, 
> and those that are shorter than slurs to go inside the slurs.
>
> I want hairpin tips and ends to automatically shorten to avoid collisions 
> with dynamics.
>
> I want text expressions, dynamics, etc, to erase barlines without having to 
> define enclosures for them.
>
> I want beams to automatically avoid creating wedges.
>
> I want accidentals on notes with ledger lines to avoid ledger lines. I want 
> accidentals on chords to space themselves correctly, taking into account 
> that, e.g., flats on a fifth can be closer together than sharps on a fifth.
>
> I want to allow dotted rests in 4/4, but only dotted eighth rests and smaller.
>
> I could go on all day…
>
> There's a book that's been discussed a bit on this list, Elaine Gould's 
> Behind Bars. I know some people have found fault with particular aspects of 
> it (I think any serious copyist or engraver is going to have their own 
> issues), but what strikes me is how very few of the engraving standards that 
> she outlines are able to be implemented automatically and reliably by any 
> notation program currently on the market.
>
> Whether you agree with everything she recommends or not, any modern notation 
> program ought to be able to accommodate everything recommended in those 650+ 
> pages as a house style, automatically, without recourse to plug-ins. That 
> ought to be the bare minimum, and I hope it's what the Steinberg folks are 
> working towards.
>
> As for whether this is a zero-sum game — features cost development time and 
> money to implement. The above is where I'd most want the time and money to 
> go: making it faster, easier, and more automatic to generate high-quality 
> music notation.
>
> Cheers,
>
> - DJA
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