BTW I respect and admire what FINK and FINK related group of people end enthusiasts such as William Scott are doing for our community of structural biologists.
Dr Felix Frolow Professor of Structural Biology and Biotechnology Department of Molecular Microbiology and Biotechnology Tel Aviv University 69978, Israel Acta Crystallographica D, co-editor e-mail: mbfro...@post.tau.ac.il Tel: ++972 3640 8723 Fax: ++972 3640 9407 Cellular: ++972 547 459 608 On Dec 30, 2009, at 20:10 , Alexander Hansen wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 12/30/09 11:54 AM, Felix Frolow wrote: >> I drag my file system from about year 2001 or so when first OS X become >> avalaible changing computers but never actually installing from the scratch >> ironing the disk. >> However recently I have an issue with FINK, X11 2.4.0, missing 2.4.1, >> backward X11 (probably 2.3.3) of Snow Leopard missing files etc. >> Apple field is resembling now old Windows days. It is less and less suitable >> for a scientific computing if one is trying to keep a pace with the modern. >> Some program packages are dependent on as much as 100-150 other packages and >> without fluent machinery it is impossible to keep pace. >> Is it not a good time to abandon X11 with its several dialects to something >> more robust and modern. Is there such thing? >> Should we go back to static distributions? >> FF >> >> Dr Felix Frolow >> Professor of Structural Biology and Biotechnology >> Department of Molecular Microbiology >> and Biotechnology >> Tel Aviv University 69978, Israel >> >> Acta Crystallographica D, co-editor >> >> e-mail: mbfro...@post.tau.ac.il >> Tel: ++972 3640 8723 >> Fax: ++972 3640 9407 >> Cellular: ++972 547 459 608 >> >> >> > > You'll be hard pressed to find an alternative to X11. That's not > something we, as porters, can really do much about, in any case: > individual packages need to have the requisite programming added to know > how to talk to other display environments--there's not just a simple > layer that can intercept calls to X11 and redirect them to Aqua. > > On our end, for 10.6 we only support the official X11 from Apple. No > Xquartz, no package of our own, etc. We had wanted to do that for 10.5, > but Apple's official release there had enough shortcomings that we > decided also to support the unofficial releases from macosforge.org. > > Static builds are well and good (though they don't quite exist in the > same sense on Darwin as on Linux), but you do wind up with multiple > copies of the same library scattered about in various app bundles on > your machine. That's exactly the opposite to actually managing > dependencies, so that's not an avenue which Fink is likely to follow. > > The big issue we have is that we're on top of a commercial operating > system, and they feel free to do things that break our upgrades, such as > removing all of the system-installed .la files and thereby breaking > builds against any package that references those. > - -- > Alexander Hansen > Fink User Liaison > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAks7l6sACgkQB8UpO3rKjQ+t/gCfUWrVq8qXzGmS4MrumdcrfXgh > oFoAn14FOqoINQ4s570V8ZZYEzSu2rPV > =L4N4 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
