On Jul 3, 10:20 pm, johnjbarton <[email protected]> wrote: > On Jul 3, 10:19 am, sir_brizz <[email protected]> wrote: > ... > > > Well, I guess that is part of my confusion about 1.4. It seems an > > extraordinary amount of time was spent on something that is hugely > > complex and doesn't even really contribute to the core functionality > > of Firebug. That's why I would have thought a more simple and flexible > > system would have been adopted moving on from 1.3. > > Yes, I invested a huge amount of time: to get rid of the garbage that > was 1.3. I don't know where you get the idea that 1.4 activation is > hugely complex. It's less than 150 lines of > code:http://code.google.com/p/fbug/source/browse/branches/firebug1.4/conte... >
I don't mean that the code itself is entirely complex, I mean that obviously more time and effort was spent on this issue than many other issues in Firebug (tweaking and fixing issues) when many people thought the previous model was fine with a little tweaking. I get it, you don't agree. I just don't know where the idea that 1.3 was so wildly hated came from, most of the talking I've seen on this list since 1.3 was released are about 1.4 issues. I'm sure the 1.3 model was disliked by some, byut how was it determined that that number was or would be higher than those that would hate the 1.4 model?? I could probably have made similar counter arguments about the 1.3 model several months ago as you are making about the 1.4 model (that you can't count the number of people complaining here as if they represented all of the Firebug users) and so I can only assume that the decision to change the activation model was a completely internal one. Also, in response to your comment a couple posts back about the team being upset that people are complaining now as opposed to previously, I think it only makes sense that a fraction of the people who read this list are using the alphas, and only a fraction of those will talk about anything in the alpha that isn't inherently broken. Lots of people talked about and complained about the activation model during the alpha period, but there wasn't a lot of response different from what we are getting now. > > > Yes we could have On For All Pages obey the black list settings. But > > > I'm not sure that would be less confusing. > > > I don't really want that. I'd rather just have "If Firebug is not > > showing and you go to another page, continue not showing Firebug". It > > So use "Off for all pages". But I don't want it off all the time. > > > doesn't make sense to have it popping up and minimizing all over the > > place. Currently there is no way to BOTH minimize and close Firebug > > for a page when "On for all pages" is checked, therefore if I want > > firebug to stay minimized and turn it off for a page, I can't. > > ? That combo would not make sense. Closed is "not active and not > showing". Minimized is "active and not showing". You can't have both. You're missing my point completely here. Right click Firebug Check "On for all pages" Go to http://www.yahoo.com [Firebug panel opens] Minimize Firebug Go to http://www.google.com [Firebug remains minimized correctly] At this point, what I WANT to do is keep Firebug "minimized" but disable it for http://www.google.com, so I: Click the bug Click the [x] Go to http://www.yahoo.com [Firebug panel opens incorrectly, in my opinion] Currently there is no way to change this behavior, and that is a problem. In my opinion, if "On for all pages" is checked and the Firebug panel is not displaying at all (whether it is minimized or closed), it should not be showing on any subsequent page loads until the bug is clicked again. I think that just highlights one of the problems with this model, but I'll leave that whining now. :p > > jjb --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Firebug" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/firebug?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
