> There used to be a wiki with functions and how-to's but I can't find it
> anymore.
>
While we have backups of most of the old website (mirrored at fishshell.com),
the wiki is one thing we did not get. :(
I'm working, actually, at this moment, on a significant change to the fishshell
site, to
bring it back up to speed. I'll be posting more about that later in a new
thread.
--
#Terin Stock
Undergraduate, Computer Science (CISE), University of Florida
On Tuesday, July 5, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Philip Ganchev wrote:
> Hi Patrick,
>
> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Patrick Mc(avery
> <patr...@spellingbeewinnars.org (mailto:patr...@spellingbeewinnars.org)>
> wrote:
> > Hi Everyone
> >
> > As I was saying I am new to fish but really excited about it. I spent a
> > few hours reading yesterday and I have some thoughts/questions.
> >
> > First of all looking through the source, this is a lot of work. Is the
> > code base built on another project? It appears that there is about 13K
> > lines of fish sources code alone and even more in C. If I wrote
> > something like this from scratch(and there is no way I could!) I would
> > definitely put a lot of work into marketing it and insuring that it is
> > adopted as widely as possible, it seems to me that many coders are not
> > always good at the latter. I am not a professional coder, I seem to have
> > more difficulty with so much C code and not so much on the promotional end.
> >
> > This is the statement describing fish in Ubuntu:
> >
> > """
> > Fish is a shell geared towards interactive use. Its features are focused on
> > user friendliness and discoverability. The language syntax is simple but
> > incompatible with other shell languages.
> > """
> >
> > I happened on this a few years ago and passed the project over. It sort
> > of came across as "it's fun to use but forget everything you know about
> > bash" I foolishly assumed things like cat, echo ls and so on were
> > missing. While I may be an idiot, I am not alone and people may give up
> > on the project after 3 seconds of contemplation, a better description
> > might really help.
>
> I agree, it does not sound very positive. Would you care to suggest a
> better description? The Ubuntu package maintainer would change the
> description once we have a better one. I don't know who that is.
>
>
> > Another thing that seems strange, the syntax looks amazing but it is
> > billed as mostly for interactive use, why is that? Would it not offer
> > more to those who write shell scripts? is this not were the sensible
> > syntax would be of most benefit?
>
> Yes, I think the syntax is more convenient for shell scripts too, and
> it should be advertised as such, but we do have to warn that it is
> incompatible with existing Posix shell scripts.
>
> > The website is nice but the does seem to be a lack of resources. is
> > there a text editor that supports this syntax and if not why not? If not
> > should I try to add this or is this a mute point? Some sample code would
> > be good, I could try to hack some together?
>
> The Web main site is not very functional (it only shows "It works!"),
> but the gitorious Web site has the current source code
> (http://gitorious.org/fish-shell/). There used to be a wiki with
> functions and how-to's but I can't find it anymore. There is a much
> smaller wiki page at the Arch Linux site:
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fish
>
> There is no text editor highlighting because no-one has made one,
> though it would be useful. Feel free to make one and post it to the
> list. The people who have access to the girorious repository will
> probably include it or give you access. It might be easiest to modify
> the highlighting definitions for Sh or Bash. Major editors, like
> Emacs, Vim and Gedit have one.
>
> > It looks like there has been some adoption from the Arch Linux people
> > but not much elsewhere, are there troubles as default shell? If so is
> > this hard to circumvent?
>
> I used Fish as a default shell for a few years, and it worked without
> problems for me. That was about 4 years ago.
>
> > Thanks for reading, I only code at night but I may have some other
> > perspectives/resources that might contribute something, I hope so, it's
> > seems like a wonderful project-Patrick
>
> Looking forward to your contributions! Regards,
> Philip
>
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