Oh btw, that was a Win 7 x64 Machine....not Vista 32 not that it *should* make too much difference.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Clafton Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 12:15 AM To: 'DL1FUX'; 'Graham Haddock' Cc: [email protected]; 'Klaus Lohmann' Subject: Re: [FlexEdge] TX/RX switching problem with changed pana-background I just tried it. 1600x800 single color. File size: 9kb Keyed, release. Immediate Audio - no delay. For grins, I used a 2mb file or a picture of my dog. 1600 x 800. Keyed, release. Immediate Audio - no delay. ------------------------------ Richard A Clafton, W5\G7EIX 'the brITish guy' - [email protected] RIROC - Hosting - Development - Technology - www.riroc.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of DL1FUX Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 12:06 AM To: Graham Haddock Cc: [email protected]; Klaus Lohmann Subject: Re: [FlexEdge] TX/RX switching problem with changed pana-background Graham, the buffers of ASIO4ALL and corresponding in PSDR are 1024 wide because otherwise I have problems when I start other programs or surf in the internet. I have to make clear: The shown panadapter-image of the received signals IS OK! You can see the whole 48kHz and the tuned station immediatley - but you cant hear it! The size of the .png HAS nothing to do with the problem because the size of the original "default" picDisplay.png is 2,56 kB and the original "IK3VIC cyan" is 16,8 kB (400x200). My selfmade picDisplay.png with callsign has 4,86 kB and 600x300. From this pixel-numbers (!) on the problem rises. The more pixel the oftener it happens. It is the amount of pixels not the size of file. @Ray J: thats a good point to check. I did not do that up to now. I will try and report. Could someone try on his own Vista-32-System and check if thats right what I say? Perhaps it only exists on MY System and I have to do research on my environment or on my damaged brain ;-) Create an image 1600 x 800 pixel (e.g. with paint.net that I use) and save it as "picDisplay.png". Accept the suggested conditions paint.net gives (it will not be much bigger than 15 kB than) and store it e.g. to the default skin folder (c:\users\/yourename/\AppData\Roaming\FlexRadio Systems\PowerSDR\Skins\default\Console). The effect should be that after release of ptt you see the panadapter working ok but you cant hear anything for more than 10 seconds. I share my created image if you like. And again: I do not expect you to do work on this! It does not affect the normal usage of the program. But I think if something like this strange happens there could be much more strange effects within the developement environment. 73, martin dl1fux Am 08.07.2010 21:49, schrieb Graham Haddock: > Martin: > > This delay in starting audio stream is a symptom that you have set the > buffer sizes too small on > ASIO4ALL. Try increasing both the size of the ASIO4ALL Offline > controlled buffers to 256, > and the Startup/Audio buffers to 512 or 1024 and see if the problem > improves. Then you > can experiment with reducing the buffer sizes again. > > Please note that the buffers inside of ASIO4ALL do not change until > you close PowerSDR > and restart. You may have to power cycle the FLEX-1500, to drop the > USB stream, also, > to allow the buffer size change. > > So, I am guessing that the change in the size of the ".png" file has > nothing to do with the > delay in the audio stream restarting. > > But you can never be sure with software. :-) > > More likely, you changed the size of the ASIO4ALL buffers, didn't see > a change, so left > them small. Then, when you restarted everything after working on the > display, the smaller > buffers took effect, and the problems began. > > If you want to improve the operation, we see that Windows 7 has much > improved audio > drivers, relative to XP or Vista. At this time, best operation will > be achieved with Windows 7, > using the Windows WASAPI driver. Long term we will have a new > FLEX-Radio USB driver > that will work with all operating systems, but this is not ready yet. > > --- Graham / KE9H > > == > > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:52 PM, DL1FUX <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Shure. You can´t start audio without the program is completely > loaded and display is stable... > If you let it stay for a few minutes and than start audio (again) > it happens as described. Try it. > Btw: OS is Vista 32. > > You do not need to give this high priority but I wanted to inform > you because if such strange things happen there might be more > strange behavior at all. > > 73, martin dl1fux > > Am 08.07.2010 19:50, schrieb Tim Ellison: > > Waiting for the panadapter to completely "paint" itself before > passing audio? > > > > -Tim > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > [mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of DL1FUX > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:38 PM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [FlexEdge] TX/RX switching problem with changed > pana-background > > Shure, but if that is 2,8 kByte or 4.2 kByte does not realy > matter for that. > And what has that to do with sound delay???? > There is a function between no. of pixel in relation to > seconds of sound missing. > > Not realy important but somewhat strange... > > 73, martin dl1fux > > > > > Am 08.07.2010 19:22, schrieb Tim (W4TME): > > I believe the images are intentionally small to make load > times faster. > > -Tim > --- > W4TME > FlexRadio Systems - Info Management Admin. > "Tune in Excitement" > > On 7/8/2010 11:06 AM, DL1FUX wrote: > > Hi, > > shame on me! I decided to change the background picture > (picDisplay.png) on the default-skin. > I wanted my callsign to be displayed in right up corner. > > So I edited the picDisplay.png (100x50 pixel) and > wrote my callsign > in it. I wrote it back and because the background is > being zoomed up > to about 1400x700 pixel the letters became very muddy... > > So I did a new picture with about 600x300 pixel and > this was > displayed much smoother and nicer. > And now my problems begann... > > If I pushed the ptt and than released it the > panadapter showed up the > received sigs again but sometimes no sound came from > the speakers! > After a few seconds (5 to 10) sound came back. > > I then changed the picDisplay.png to a new picture > with 1600x800 > pixel and then reproduceable every time no sound after > ptt-release > ever since... > Changed back to 100x50 pixel and every thing works > great again. > > 73, martin dl1fux > > > > _______________________________________________ > Flexedge mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexedge_flex-radio.biz > This is the FlexRadio Systems e-mail Reflector called > FlexEdge. 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