Hi Brian,

I've run THD (on the analog signals) and IMD (on the RF signals).  What 
I hear correlates strongly with IMD levels at lower powers (where much 
of our voice energy is) when compared between 5K driver, 5K final, and a 
1k.  Correlation does not mean causality, but...no one has yet come up 
with a better idea.

Other notes...

I recalibrated the bias and power (default bias seems to be 1.0A for the 
drivers and 2.0A for the finals).   I can't tell if there's a change in 
distortion or not, but IMD did not change appreciably (a dB or so).  
Will listen again tomorrow - my ears are tired.

Also, I tried 10-band EQ settings from Dale.  No joy.

Does anyone who is familiar with the 5K circuitry (and understands PA 
design - this isn't my field) have any ideas for improving the linearity 
of the PA final stage?  (Apart from adjusting bias, that is.)  This 
would be a great experiment to try.

- Jeff

Brian Lloyd wrote:
> On Jul 8, 2008, at 12:18 PM, K6JEK wrote:
>
>   
>> It not just Jeff.   I'm one of the guys who've been listening to the
>> various audio tests.  We first noticed something funny in someone
>> else's 5000 before Jeff even got his. We ran experiment after
>> experiment. This guy finally returned his for a refund.  Then another
>> fellow (not in the local rag chew group) broke in with his 5000 to
>> say he's just waiting for someone to figure this out.  His 5000 had
>> the same problem.  We've been listening and recording with a variety
>> of equipment ranging from 1000's to direct conversion home brews.
>>
>> It is subtle.  It might be rare.  But it is not unique to JCA
>>
>> I think Jeff's nailed it.  The audio up through the driver stage is
>> perfect.  It gets funky in the final.  Why and what to do about it is
>> another matter.
>>     
>
> Has anyone run single-tone and two-tone tests and looked at the  
> distortion products? (THD and IMD). If you can hear it you can  
> probably measure it. The spectrum will tell you something about what  
> might be causing it.
>
> Oh, has anyone looked at the gain of the PA? If the PA uses feedback  
> to linearize it, there may be a problem with the feedback loop and the  
> PA may be running open-loop.
>
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>
> 73 de Brian, WB6RQN
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>
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