On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:13:16 +0200, Pep wrote in message 
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> Hi all,
> 
> > ..ok, so you have no way of assuring people see the same things at
> > IVAO.
> 
> Right, though differences are scarce in practice. But even in real
> life, you have no way of assuring others see colors the same way you
> do (just kiddin ;o) ).
> 
> >>
> >> > ..you fly FG in IVAO using Wintendo???  How do these communicate?
> >>
> >> It would be nice to fly FG in IVAO (this is the whole point of this
> >> conversation), whatever platform. I personally prefer Linux, but
> >> as FG is multiplatform, then IVAO would turn multiplatform...
> >
> > ..yeah, but never mind my surprise, the important question
> > on my line above, was: "How do these communicate?"
> >
> 
> I think I'm missing something from your question. How do who
> communicate? FG and IVAO?

..yup, the programs, they must communicate somehow.  Your wrote your 
own code to do this?

> > But those you don't see on the list, but who are online on the MP
> > servers on a near-constant basis, are the "kids" (of variable age
> > range, no doubt) whose idea of social flying is "EMERGENCY LANDING<
> > EVERYBODY CLEAR THE RUNWAY!!!!@@@" or "CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO
> > FLY>>??" and/or those that just loop around aimlessly seeking
> > FLY>>attention or try to pull off something 
> > "cool" flying a 787 like it were in an aerobatic display.
> >
> > Given the former, I agree that this presents no problem working
> > with IVAO. How do we screen for the latter?  Again I say that there
> > would have to be two FG-MP networks; one connected with IVAO and
> > one that isn't.  Or, close FG-MP to only those who register for
> > IVAO and plan to follow its guidelines, leaving the "kids" to play
> > solo, or else privately set up their own FG-MP servers.
> 
> I completely agree with that. That's why I kept insisting that no one
> should loose their freedom to play in the way more fun for each one.
> Someone will prefer messig around, looping, crashing, hitting,
> aerobatics, etc. Some other will have more fun executing a full
> flight, with its takeoff, departure, enroute, approach, goaround,
> diverting, holding or landing procedures, using charts, in a way
> exactly identical to reality. And someone could prefer both things,
> depending on the day. Then, two (or more actually) separate networks
> is best. You don't need to change your flying meetings; moreover: you
> shouldn't do it for the sake of joining another network. And IVAO
> would accept FG simmers that enjoyed real life procedures without
> changing its principles. I don't even think joining networks is
> philosophically possible.

..some aren't, agreed, and some combinations _are_ possible, but let's
first have IVAO weed out it's litigation traps, e.g. this gem, the last
line of §2 in http://www.ivao.aero/rulregs/va-r-r.asp ,  doesn't quite
fly with me, obviously IVAO and its Executive Commitee _is_ subject to
copyright law and the GPL, if they do anything mentioned in either of
these.

> Best,
> 
> Pep.


-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o)
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.

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