Hi Gérard, and James,

Thanks for the info, 
I tried some other JSBSim aircraft like A6M2-jsbsim, f18, f15, etc, and found 
many fall into either black out or white out, which never happens on fgfs 
without the JSBSim update.

As this update is included in Durk's tarball, we definitely need to either cut 
out the JSBSim update on 11/30 or fix this issue before the release.
I think latter is better but I don't know if we can fix this easily.... need 
many helps from you guys.

I now feel very much that I wish we had a release branch for separating two 
things, concentrating on bug-hunting for release and actively committing new 
features that might be buggy but very attractive.

Best,

Tat

On Dec 8, 2008, at 2:30 AM, gerard robin wrote:

> On dimanche 07 décembre 2008, gerard robin wrote:
>> On dimanche 07 décembre 2008, James Turner wrote:
>>> On 7 Dec 2008, at 15:37, Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote:
>>>> Then finally I got
>>>> OpenAL error (AL_INVALID_VALUE)
>>>> and fgfs crashed.
>>>>
>>>> I'll investigate deeper on this, but I'm very happy if anyone tells
>>>> me how to fix this.
>>>
>>> I see this 'somethimes' - not every day, always with JSBsim aircraft,
>>> and I have no explanation, sorry. It doesn't always crash, but I've
>>> also seen the OpenAL error (AL_INVALID_VALUE and the the crash without
>>> the 'nans' flooding.
>>>
>>> My feeling is that there is still a memory-corruption issue lurking
>>> somewhere.
>>>
>>> James
>>
>> Just a way to look for , not to solve , when working on some old aircraft
>> (not in cvs, not yet ..) i noticed that additional  tanks  which are not
>> declared feeding an engine gave these tons of message and a black screen.
>> If i remove the tanks everything is coming back, right.
>> However, since i split  the <flight_control   in several systems components
>> , (the <flight_control , becoming empty in the main branch) i get again the
>> Aircraft  loaded and working with the  additional  tanks.
>> Probably it is a misfit during the initialization of the FDM within JSBSim,
>> which does not come up,  with <flight_control replaced by "systems" files
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>
> An other complementary information, that problem, to me,  is not new .
> i noticed the bug before the last update ( which is for piston engine,  ).
>
> 2008-11-30
> Modified Files:
>        FGAtmosphere.cpp FGAtmosphere.h FGAuxiliary.cpp FGFCS.cpp 
>        FGMassBalance.cpp FGMassBalance.h FGOutput.cpp 
>        FGPropulsion.cpp
> Log Message:
> Sync. with JSBSim CVS
>
> I was unable to explain the error ( it could have been from me ) , and the 
> files i am working on are not available on cvs, so , i shut up :)
>
> May be an addition of errors  did make that Concorde becoming suddenly not 
> usable.
>
> Cheers
>
> -- 
> Gérard
> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/
>
> J'ai décidé d'être heureux parce que c'est bon pour la santé. 
> Voltaire
>
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