Has anyone that works with RF and Protel ever had to make a spiral
conductor? Is there a server or some such thing that makes one for you by
defining the trace width and spacing etc... ? it should start at a center
point and spiral out at a given rate with a given tracewitdh, etc... 

Bill Brooks 
PCB Design Engineer 
DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS INC.
3030 Enterprise Court 
Vista, CA 92083 
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
IPC Designers Council, San Diego Chapter 
http://www.ipc.org/SanDiego/
http://home.fda.net/bbrooks/pca/pca.htm



-----Original Message-----
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 2:47 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Explanation of Ports


At 11:43 PM 6/11/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Thanks also for your detailed explanation. As usual, this list knows more
>about Protel than Protel does!

It is fairly normal for a thousand people involved with a piece of 
software, collectively, to know more than any single individual, even if 
that individual works for the company that designed the software. We 
especially are more likely to know about workarounds, but we may also be 
better able to explain things, having stumbled over them ourselves. We also 
have many, many more hours in the day. Not individually -- company support 
people may be working full-time -- but collectively.

We are not being paid directly to provide support, which puts a damper on 
it, but that inhibition is swamped by the power of numbers. And there are 
indirect benefits to writing for some of us. For example, if a reader wants 
to be talked through a problem, I'm available. But I'll charge for it. 
Those of us who run service bureaus gain referrals, etc.

I do think mutual user support is the way of the future, at least with 
complex software such as Protel. I note that Cadence seems to be moving in 
that direction. Ideal, of course, would be some combination and better 
cooperation.

Protel could designate, for example, one or a few support engineers to 
actively participate in this list. There are reasons why they don't do 
that, but some of those reasons, at least, are obsolete. Company 
representatives on a list like that tend to attract a lot of flack, they 
will be blamed for anything and everything, but that can be controlled 
through list rules and policies, one of which would be that the company 
reps would not attempt to defend the company on the list, leaving that to 
the rest of us. And if none of us want to defend the company on a point, 
perhaps the company should look closely at that point!

We do have Protel CSC, but CSC writes only infrequently; usually when some 
issue has arisen for which they have an answer and none of the rest of us 
have supplied it. That's efficient -- and we like for Protel to be 
efficient, since it keeps costs down -- but efficiency is not everything.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Abdulrahman Lomax
P.O. Box 690
El Verano, CA 95433

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