Do you have examples of situations where Red Hat (or any other company or
corporation for that matter) has trumped what most of the community
wants/needs? If you do, what do you think the board could/should do about
it?

2014-05-21 13:24 GMT+02:00 Emily Gonyer <emilyyr...@gmail.com>:

> Yes, you're part of the community. But you're being paid by a large
> corporation to work on it, and as a result are beholden to them at
> least as much as to the rest of the community. Red Hat is not the only
> thing that matters in the GNOME world. Or, it shouldn't be. But for
> the last several years, Red Hat's wants/needs have trumped what anyone
> else wants/needs, including the larger user base of GNOME which is
> what (I believe) has driven it to fracture into so many DE's over the
> last 3-4 years. We need to make sure that people who aren't working
> for Red Hat have a say. Make sure that people who aren't being paid to
> work on free software have a voice. Sure, those of us who are not
> currently paid can speak up on mailing lists, but we're (mostly)
> roundly ignored. This is what has driven the community apart. This is
> the problem.
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Bastien Nocera <had...@hadess.net> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2014-05-21 at 07:15 -0400, Emily Gonyer wrote:
> >> Of course people should be able to be paid to work on free software.
> >> That's great. But when one or two large companies pay the majority of
> >> developers, it becomes hard to argue that it is still a 'community
> >> led' project, let alone one which is independent. And that's where
> >> GNOME is right now.
> >
> > Are we (those paid contributors) not part of the community? Are non-paid
> > volunteers the only ones that can be part of the "community"? I don't
> > understand your answer here.
> >
> >> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Richard Hughes <hughsi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > On 21 May 2014 10:14, Bastien Nocera <had...@hadess.net> wrote:
> >> >> Suggesting that we don't have GNOME's best interests at heart is
> >> >> just hurtful, and incorrect.
> >> >
> >> > Agreed. I've never once been told by anyone at Red Hat to do something
> >> > that I didn't think was in the best interests of GNOME as a project.
> >> >
> >> > Richard
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
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