Do you have examples of situations where Red Hat (or any other company or corporation for that matter) has trumped what most of the community wants/needs? If you do, what do you think the board could/should do about it?
2014-05-21 13:24 GMT+02:00 Emily Gonyer <emilyyr...@gmail.com>: > Yes, you're part of the community. But you're being paid by a large > corporation to work on it, and as a result are beholden to them at > least as much as to the rest of the community. Red Hat is not the only > thing that matters in the GNOME world. Or, it shouldn't be. But for > the last several years, Red Hat's wants/needs have trumped what anyone > else wants/needs, including the larger user base of GNOME which is > what (I believe) has driven it to fracture into so many DE's over the > last 3-4 years. We need to make sure that people who aren't working > for Red Hat have a say. Make sure that people who aren't being paid to > work on free software have a voice. Sure, those of us who are not > currently paid can speak up on mailing lists, but we're (mostly) > roundly ignored. This is what has driven the community apart. This is > the problem. > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Bastien Nocera <had...@hadess.net> wrote: > > On Wed, 2014-05-21 at 07:15 -0400, Emily Gonyer wrote: > >> Of course people should be able to be paid to work on free software. > >> That's great. But when one or two large companies pay the majority of > >> developers, it becomes hard to argue that it is still a 'community > >> led' project, let alone one which is independent. And that's where > >> GNOME is right now. > > > > Are we (those paid contributors) not part of the community? Are non-paid > > volunteers the only ones that can be part of the "community"? I don't > > understand your answer here. > > > >> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Richard Hughes <hughsi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > On 21 May 2014 10:14, Bastien Nocera <had...@hadess.net> wrote: > >> >> Suggesting that we don't have GNOME's best interests at heart is > >> >> just hurtful, and incorrect. > >> > > >> > Agreed. I've never once been told by anyone at Red Hat to do something > >> > that I didn't think was in the best interests of GNOME as a project. > >> > > >> > Richard > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, > power and magic in it. - Goethe > > Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't > matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss > > Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that > counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein > _______________________________________________ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > -- Cheers, Alberto Ruiz
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