Hi Guys, I am not sure if you guys are up for a revamp but I would be willing to sponsor some webhosting on my shared cpanel server. It is kept secure and up to date, any ip's trying to brute force it are blocked at the firewall. I was thinking of setting up wordpress for the site? What do you guys think?
Jonathan Aquilina On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 2:52 PM <win...@genial.ms> wrote: > Hi, > > yes I wrote these mostly to gather feedback from others, maybe Caleb, as > he did the > website stuff previously > . > No, I do not want the website to gain even more warnings. I was hoping we > could > decide on which pages with warnings are still useful, which could be > deleted. > > Besides, I know all changes are in sf git, that is why I think it's a > glitch in the update script. > If I had ftp access, I'd probably just put the newest version there > manually and look around > for the broken remains I mentioned earlier (which I also suspect coming > from the upload > script being glitched). > > I pretty much do not even know what is available to us on the server. > I only remember from reading previous discussions on mailing list, it is > not wanted to upload > any CMS or maybe even any server side programs at all, anymore, for > security reasons. > Now, pretty much everyone doesn't like having to add a new news article to > 3 pages and > then hunt around for links in need of updating. I'm sure this contributed > to the bitrotting. > I also would not like doing everything client side, as I feel everyone > should be able to > read a mostly static website without JavaScript enabled, but that would be > necessary, > if it can not be done server side. > Only remaining solution is cutting out the list pages, copy over the > sitemap and shorten it, > to only have each news items text in a single page. I never liked > pagination as a website user > anyways. > I also thought about letting it be in current form, now that I fixed all > broken links and other stuff. > This just encourages new brokenness developing again over time. > > Greetings, > > wintertime > > *Gesendet:* Montag, 23. Dezember 2019 um 11:19 Uhr > *Von:* "D Blakeley via Freecol-developers" < > freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> > *An:* freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > *Betreff:* Re: [Freecol-developers] Website fixes > > Thanks Winter I'm looking forward to see all these changes you've been > busy on. As discussed in the forums something has gone wrong between sf & > github as when mike did the update some changes went on to the live site > but some didn't. > > *> - www.freecol.org/bugtracker <http://www.freecol.org/bugtracker> > contains broken remains not inside git,* > *> maybe same for www.freecol.org/featuretracker > <http://www.freecol.org/featuretracker> or other directories.* > *> Needs checking with ftp access?* > *> - Some older news items (I think 0.9.4 and older) contain broken* > *> bugtracker and featuretracker links, I do not have a replacement for.* > *> Are these still accessible somewhere in bugtracker or as changelogs?* > *> - Maybe fix the stuff in cv3-discoverer-english to be an actual,* > *> accessible html page?* > *> - Maybe look through docs, templates, images and create-new-article* > *> directories for things to update or delete?* > *> - [Maybe convert the xhtml1.0 transitional to html5?]* > > Unfortunately I'm no help to you with these ones as they are beyond my > skill sets and/or they require intimate knowledge of the sites workings and > history. But I'm guessing you were more after feedback from Mike and the > others on these anyway. > > *> - [Maybe clean up the div-soup and table-soup everywhere?]* > *> - [Maybe make the website prettier somehow?]* > > These ones I may be able to help you with, but with help and guidance. Eg > you guys overhaul one section, show it to me and then I attempt to > replicate the improvements across other sections. > And yes even with notepadd++ I struggled in that endless sea of broken > divs and tables. It's a such a mess you just get lost in it all! > > *> - Maybe update some pages with warnings about the being outdated or* > *> move or delete?* > > There's already a couple of outdated content warnings in yellow boxes on > some old pages of the site so just tell me which pages need the out of date > disclaimer and I'll just copy and paste a similar yellow box msg into them > all if you guys don't wish to delete. Easy! :) > > *> - Maybe add some new content?* > *> - When all is done, add news about website update.* > Now these I can be a BIG help to you guys on and I've got a few ideas I've > probably already mentioned before. Best of all I can pretty much do some of > them myself without bothering you guys every 5 minutes. > > The current screenshots section is DISMAL.. the newest pics are from > version 7.0 for christ sake lol, it really undersells your game as you've > made numerous engine and terrain improvements since those pics. So I'm > thinking I can update more-screenshots.html with some of those HD pictures > I made and showed you guys before at imgur.com/a/lBEsMJB (I'm thinking I > might take a new HD screenshot with the classic wooden mod interface turned > on just for people who like the old one too) and put them above the old 7.0 > pics in a new 12.0 pre-release test images section. Then update the main > screenshots.html file to use some of these new pics too. I'm guessing you'd > rather onsite hosting instead of offsite so I can upload my pngs to your > github website images folder for usage. > > I also want to add a new videos.html page that its laid out similar to the > screenshots page and lists all found videos and mentions the version number > used for the recording. There's a whole bunch of videos on youtube from > people made over the years can can be used to show off your game and of > course I've got my much newer HD freecol tour video currently sitting on > ice on my computer ready to be uploaded to youtube once I've made some > final changes and fixes to it. I was originally thinking that we rename > screenshots in the main menu to 'media' but realised that your main menu > code is duplicates across every single page on the site which would be not > so much fun to change lol. So I'm thinking I simply add the new videos page > as a subsection of the current screenshots section and then all I have to > do is change the menu in all the screenshot subsection html pages > (more-screenshots, ar-units, art-icons, art-colonies) to include the videos > page. Then I can also change the main screenshots.html page to talk about > the videos section so that the moment anyone anywhere on the site clicks on > screenshots they'll be taken to that page and see very quickly that there > is a videos subsection just like there is currently a more screenshots > subsection. > > "new HD videos and screenshots added to site" can even be a separate news > item to winters suggested website update news post as the more news we can > think of (to make the place look more active) the better lol! > > Winter I'm guessing you're going with the onsite simplified news plan? > Despite the recent live site updating issues I can see you've changed a > number of news items have "read more" button which is cool. Although I'd > strongly recommend we change the title of the article to be a link as as > well since that's how the vast majority of blog & news sites work. You can > either hit a read more button or click on the main heading itself to load > the full article. eg "Nightly Releases Now Online!" just above the date > published takes you to the article as well as the read more. > > Only problem with this strategy is that you're still going to pages and > pages of news. eg its currently 13 pages so even with truncated articles > only showing the first couple of sentences you're still going to have 5 or > 6 pages or 2 or so mega long ones and still have all the annoying problems > of having to bump articles back between pages every time you add a new one. > Thats why I was thinking either switching to a blog service that does all > the list page organising for you (eg > https://www.shoutmeloud.com/how-to-install-wordpress-manually-web-hosting.html > ) > or using a very simple one page list of news title only links similar to > what the openra guys did (eg https://www.openra.net/news/ ) although > they're using 3 lines = 1-title 2-author & date 3-comments which we > wouldn't need, we could easily do bolded title with small - author & date > after it on 1 line (eg see below) and squish them all on to one giant list > page. Then you never have to worry about managing news pages again lol! > > > *Nightly Releases Now Online!* - By David 2017-09-16 > > *FreeCol 0.11.6 released!* - By FreeCol Team 2015-10-17 > > *FreeCol 0.11.5 released!* - By FreeCol Team 2015-08-03 > Anyway as much as I'd love to start on some of these ideas (eg the > screenshots & vids thing) I'm busy until after Christmas plus I don't dare > work on the website when I know the current github master copy doesn't have > all the recent changes made by winter and I. Once that is sorted by someone I > can then clone it and have a play. > > > Speaking of news Marcin suggested I add a news link to my sticky WELCOME > post however I'm hesitant to do so when currently the news makes the > project look abandoned lol! Once we've sorted out some of the above stuff > I'll stick a news link to the welcome post too. > > > I've done another pass on my proposed feature list to put on the front > page with the new summary text & links. I've done a quick test on my > Babylon 5 Civ4 mod sourceforge page and there was no character limit on the > feature boxes stopping me from using the longer features which is good > news. This is the current list (very open to > suggestions/additions/corrections): > > > - Play classic Colonization games > - Play new expanded Colonization games > - Huge 8 player games (plus even more players with mods) > - Multiplayer support > - Huge maps of America, Africa, Australia, and more! > - Map Editor to create your own maps > - Easy fan mods support > > David recently posted here that he's setup some stuff on github for > modders: > > https://sourceforge.net/p/freecol/discussion/141200/thread/e78a6df83d/?limit=25#5ae5 > > This reminded me of something else I wanted to help setup which is making > the FreeCol forum more mod friendly. Eg have a sticky thread in this > FreeCol forum that gives important information and links on how to mod the > game, how to lodge a mod request (using the info dave posted), lists the > mods currently included with freecol, lists other mods and custom maps > (with links) found in the depths of the forums here that are not included > but are worth mentioning and an ideas dream wishlist for what people would > like to see in a mod if they can't make one themselves (this would sort of > share ideas with the ideas for Freecol 2 forum). > I could put something like that together in the forums when I have some > time. :) And then put link to it in the welcome thread too as I think it is > really important 'advertise' an friendly easy well structured modding scene > for your game as that attracts fans and talented people big time, it keeps > fan projects alive for years even after the main engine isn't worked on > anymore (eg Star Trek Armada 2 Fleet Ops is the most recent example of that > I've seen). "Want to make your dream colonization game experience from an > existing engine? You’ve come to the right place!" lol. > > Anyway I think that's all the ideas i had rolling around in my head. I > look forward to getting started on some of them around the end of the week. > Have a good christmas guys! > > Blake > > > On Monday, 16 December 2019, 04:04:40 am ACDT, <win...@genial.ms> wrote: > > > Hi, > > I fixed most remaining broken things on the website now, but removed > some broken stuff, like rss feeds. > > There is still a few problems remaining: > - www.freecol.org/bugtracker contains broken remains not inside git, > maybe same for www.freecol.org/featuretracker or other directories. > Needs checking with ftp access? > - Some older news items (I think 0.9.4 and older) contain broken > bugtracker and featuretracker links, I do not have a replacement for. > Are these still accessible somewhere in bugtracker or as changelogs? > - Maybe fix the stuff in cv3-discoverer-english to be an actual, > accessible html page? > - Maybe look through docs, templates, images and create-new-article > directories for things to update or delete? > - Maybe update some pages with warnings about the being outdated or > move or delete? > - Maybe add some new content? > - [Maybe convert the xhtml1.0 transitional to html5?] > - [Maybe clean up the div-soup and table-soup everywhere?] > - [Maybe make the website prettier somehow?] > - When all is done, add news about website update. > > If you have time and comments on above questions, please do! > > Greetings, > > wintertime > > > > _______________________________________________ > Freecol-developers mailing list > Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers > _______________________________________________ Freecol-developers mailing > list Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers > > > _______________________________________________ > Freecol-developers mailing list > Freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecol-developers >
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