On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Rugxulo <rugx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> BTW, thanks, good to know about latest VirtualBox license, I hadn't
> checked closely on the (very recent) 4.x yet. I just knew about old
> compiles by gNewSense, and since they're pretty strict, I assumed
> theirs would be suitable (at least in a pinch) for Jim's business use.
>
> (continued below)
>
> On 2/12/11, Liam Proven <lpro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 12:56 PM, François Revol <re...@free.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>> Le 12 févr. 2011 à 13:39, Liam Proven a écrit :
>>>
>>>> The only major PC OS I've found that /doesn't/ work is OS/2. However,
>>>> this does work under VMware Player, which is freeware but proprietary.
>>>
>>> You can always sent patches to VirtualBox, it's Free Software :D
>>
>> :¬) Well, I would, but I am not a programmer and don't know anything
>> newer than a *very* basic knowledge of TurboPascal for MS-DOS 22y ago.
>> I don't care for C or C-like languages and try to avoid them.
>
> There are several dialects of Pascals for DOS. And don't forget
> Modula-2, Modula-3, Oberon. Unfortunately, most are abandoned. But
> yeah, I agree, C is weird. Nevertheless, the FreeDOS kernel uses it.
> (VirtualBox probably uses C++, but I forget exactly.)

True, but it does mean I can't really usefully contribute code to anything...

>> I believe VirtualBox's software x86 emulation uses Ring 1 of the CPU
>> to run Ring 0 code, which OS/2 does not permit. VMware, on the other
>> hand, runs Ring 0 code through a software interpreter, which works.
>
> I also noticed in the past that eComStation 1.2 demo didn't run, but
> they don't even seem to offer than online anymore (esp. since 2.0 was
> finalized), so I can't test again. I think Wikipedia claims it's due
> to pervasive use of ring 2 by OS/2.

Answered (mistakenly) elsewhere - yes, I think this is right.

>> My CPU - an Athlon64 X2 4600+, the last-ever Socket 939 CPU - does not
>> support hardware virtualisation. The problem that I have probably
>> would not affect a newer CPU with Intel VT or AMD-V.
>
> My new Intel laptop doesn't have it either. I think they are more
> stingy than AMD in putting it on their chips. It definitely makes
> VirtualBox more painful without it (e.g. latest Fedora, which I tried
> last night, annoying). My old (2007) AMD laptop had it and ran fine,
> but that one (and bro's similar AMD one from different OEM) died (PSU?
> overheated?). Oh well, you can't have everything.

Yes, indeed. It's a nuisance.

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