Le 2 févr. 2011 à 05:22, dos386 a écrit : >> In some countries, at least France, it is illegal to force people >> to buy 2 things when they only want one. > > COOL :-) > > So you can acheter a PC without Windaube en France?
In theory yes. In practice, the 15y ongoing fight has finally led to some advances, like some big shops being requested by courts to show the price details of the included software, and publish software refund procedure. Though not all vendors follow those procedures and they make sure it is as complicated it can be (you have to send your machine for 1 month, ...). But some (online mostly, and small ones in town) shops propose PCs without OS, though it's harder to find laptops. Sometimes to counter Microsoft claims that not having an OS installed implies the buyer will copy Windoze illegally they just preinstall FreeDOS :) We can also notice having a single price for the computer and the OS makes it easy for the vendors to blur the VAT details even though the rates are different, allowing M$ to evade perhaps a billion euros in VAT fees just in France alone. > Is it cheaper (preferably by plus que 1 Euro) than a PC with Windaube? The refund is still very hard to calculate, some only get 15 EUR, while some managed to get 100 or 200 IIRC. Some "fast path" local courts made it more difficult by saying tied sale was ok, but in november 2nd ruling courts looked at it and broke the judgements : http://www.april.org/la-cour-de-cassation-sinteresse-la-vente-liee http://aful.org/communiques/tres-belle-victoire-groupe-aful-racketiciel http://racketiciel.info/nouvelles/arret-cour-cassation-distributeurs Interestingly the DGCCRF (government agency for fair competition) never really took position on the matter, "waiting for court decisions", maybe they will finally act upon it now that we have them. François. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d _______________________________________________ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
