> > Anyone in fear of having their Freenet shutdown *must have* this
> > option.
> 
> No.  There may be a way to address this concern, but this definitely isn't
> it.  It creates bottlenecks and central points of failure, and reduces
> Freenet's ability to scale.

Substantiate such claims. I've refuted your claims that clusters hurt the
network already. My position is that clusters 1) don't break Freenet,
2) are the only way to stop MediaEnforcer-style attacks, 3) don't have to
hurt Freenet efficiency at all if implemented properly.

> I think that it is *very* unlikely that this would be achieved by
> port-scanning (do you know how long a port-scan would take over a 56k
> modem, particluarly where a DH key-exchange must be attempted for each
> port?).  Additionally, with the introduction of Public-key crypto, a port

So your answer is that there is no threat? I think you're presuming an
overly weak attacker.

> scan would not be able to confirm the presence of a Freenet node without
> the appropriate public key!  Much more likely that they would just run a
> Freenet node and harvest IP addresses from it.

A very easy attack which can only be defeated by rejecting connections
from unknown hosts.

> b) People would use it properly, creating bottlenecks and central points
>    of failure in Freenet and generally fucking up the way the whole thing
>    works

A cluster acts just like a node, so it doesn't mess anything up.

> I stick to my position - in a proper Freenet it will be *impossible* to
> prevent people from fishing for IP addresses, although they will have
> little or no control over which IP addresses they "catch".  The point is
> that it should be difficult for them to shut down an arbitrary node once
> they have found it, and the best way to do this is to have Freenet so
> widely deployed that there is a higher possibility of getting hit by
> lightening than someone with the power to shut down your node actually
> finding your IP address.

Freenet will not become widely deployed if people are scared to use
it. Therefore, it is imperative that protection be given to individual
users.



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