Hi Christian, Thanks! My data quality is generally not very good - this i why i'm changing the parameters before starting manual editing (this saves me a lot of work). I just wanted to make sure that it did not affect the atlas more than necessary -> making the data incomparable. Lets have a talk at DRCMR - i also have some questions concerning movement artefacts. Best, Silas
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 15:28:46 +0100 From: ct...@dtu.dk To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Changing wstresh and removing wsg-atlas - consequences? Hi Silas, Changing the wsthresh and wsgatlas parameters only affect the brainmask (which is, among other things, used to limit how far the pial surface is allowed to grow). This shouldn't affect the white matter. if your data contrast is good, you generally wont see much affect from adjusting these parameters. However, if the contrast is bad you need to inspect your brainmasks carefully, to make sure they improved (without removing actual brain from the image). Furthermore, in this case it is likely you'll also need to edit the brainmasks manually. To answer your question: Whenever you modify the parameters, and in particular if you need to edit brainmasks, you introduce a bias in your study (your qualitative evaluation of how good the brainmasks / pial surfaces are). You need to consider if adjusting brainmasks is better than letting the pipeline do its job - which boils down to the number of subjects you have. The more you have, the more robust your statistics will be, and the more likely it is that you can leave everything as it is. However, If you have few subjects, bad data quality (and in turn, brainmask quality) can really impact your pial surface, and then it may be best to adjust the masks. We can talk more at the hospital if you need further discussion, and also look at your data ;-) Best, Christian On 02/16/2015 01:54 PM, Silas wrote: Hi Freesurfer team, I'm currently making an structural analysis using freesurfer. In the analysis i'm comparing 3 groups; 2 patient groups with different reactions to a certain type of medication and a healthy control group. In the freesurfer pipeline i'm changing the parameters wsthresh and wsgatlas in order to obtain a better fitted pial surface and white matter surface - and i was wondering if changing these parameters affect the comparability of the 3 groups (if e.g. i would like to investigate the inferior frontal gyrus)? Best, Silas _______________________________________________ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail. _______________________________________________ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail.
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