On Mon 28.07.2003 at 02:41:32PM +0200, Dirk Meyer wrote:
> Aubin Paul wrote:
> > It's completely foolish, but your fair use rights are overridden by
> > the prohibition against circumventing copy protection. Audio CDs have
> > no copy protection, so you're not circumventing anything, hence fair
> > use takes over.
> 
> They are testing copy protected audio cds in Germany right now. I bet
> until the end they have the same in Canada for all new stuff. 

Same in France (where I'm from) and in Finland (where I live). Or do you
think about yet another Audio CD protection system?

> > The main thing is that I don't think Freevo should ever include the
> > vobcopy binary with dvdcss support, but just point you to where you
> > can get it if you're in the (increasingly few) countries where it's
> > allowed.
> 
> Don't ship anything with Freevo that may be illegal. I'm also not
> happy with the mplayer shipped with Freevo, because this mplayer
> contains DeCSS and in 3 days for now, it's illegal in Germany to
> distribute software that can bypass copyprotection. [1].

MPlayer, as is, is infringing patents about MPEG4 in the U.S. (and Japan
too), because of ffmpeg and xvid. But this is still legal in Europe (but
might become illegal after the vote in the European Parliament in
September :( ).

One solution is to host the runtime in a country which has not such
restrictions, or tell people to get and compile their own mplayer if
they want to watch DVDs, and distribute an mplayer without DeCSS. And
tell U.S. citizens that they are not allowed to download mplayer anyway.

I know this is not user-friendly, since it will break the "0 config"
feature of Freevo. 

> Yes, we in Germany beat you guys in America in this point of stupidity
> :-(

DMCA in USA *is* that stupid too, AFAIK. But France is following the
same path than Germany. Only Finland refused the EUCD at first (but it
will come anyway later I suppose).

> Footnotes: 
> [1]  This law is very stupid, and I hope it will change back. I buy a
>      DVD, I buy a DVD-ROM, but I'm not allowed to watch my DVD with
>      mplayer.

Actually you are, if you pay the right to do so...

Matthieu
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