Nothing will be crippled; we'll just make sure to dlopen() libraries
that do things that are wrapped up in legalities.

On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 02:58:26PM +0100, Q wrote:
> Well look, the sensible thing is not to get too worked up over the
> legalities.
> 
> I think CD protection in general is going to become more prevelant even in
> audio CDs, so eventually if you worried too much about it, this would
> prevent a project like this from ever existing.
> 
> To my mind this is all part of MS and big business' DRM plans, that much to
> MS' glee are apparently set to destroy the potential for Linux to act as a
> desktop OS, or for it to have any multi-media capacity at all. Deliberate or
> not (and perhaps from MS' and other's stand point, its purely beneficial)
> that is exactly the direction we're headed in.
> 
> At some point or other though something has to give. Either Linux gets
> consigned to the dustbin of history and never lives up to its full potential
> as a desktop/multi-media OS, or people organise and prepare to engage in
> some form of civil resistance.
> 
> This whole DRM thing is simply eating into the functionality of Linux - and
> it looks set in the near future to get much worse. (Palladium andyone?) I
> think however it's too early to be giving up on it and putting our hands up
> and offerring to surrender. Like I said, things are going to get much
> tougher in the near future for everyone. This was always going to be a
> fight. You will have to be prepared for that - and be prepared to deal with
> the concequences.
> 
> Q
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Matthieu Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] Legal issues [Was: audio.cdbackup]
> 
> 
> On Mon 28.07.2003 at 02:41:32PM +0200, Dirk Meyer wrote:
> > Aubin Paul wrote:
> > > It's completely foolish, but your fair use rights are overridden by
> > > the prohibition against circumventing copy protection. Audio CDs have
> > > no copy protection, so you're not circumventing anything, hence fair
> > > use takes over.
> >
> > They are testing copy protected audio cds in Germany right now. I bet
> > until the end they have the same in Canada for all new stuff.
> 
> Same in France (where I'm from) and in Finland (where I live). Or do you
> think about yet another Audio CD protection system?
> 
> > > The main thing is that I don't think Freevo should ever include the
> > > vobcopy binary with dvdcss support, but just point you to where you
> > > can get it if you're in the (increasingly few) countries where it's
> > > allowed.
> >
> > Don't ship anything with Freevo that may be illegal. I'm also not
> > happy with the mplayer shipped with Freevo, because this mplayer
> > contains DeCSS and in 3 days for now, it's illegal in Germany to
> > distribute software that can bypass copyprotection. [1].
> 
> MPlayer, as is, is infringing patents about MPEG4 in the U.S. (and Japan
> too), because of ffmpeg and xvid. But this is still legal in Europe (but
> might become illegal after the vote in the European Parliament in
> September :( ).
> 
> One solution is to host the runtime in a country which has not such
> restrictions, or tell people to get and compile their own mplayer if
> they want to watch DVDs, and distribute an mplayer without DeCSS. And
> tell U.S. citizens that they are not allowed to download mplayer anyway.
> 
> I know this is not user-friendly, since it will break the "0 config"
> feature of Freevo.
> 
> > Yes, we in Germany beat you guys in America in this point of stupidity
> > :-(
> 
> DMCA in USA *is* that stupid too, AFAIK. But France is following the
> same path than Germany. Only Finland refused the EUCD at first (but it
> will come anyway later I suppose).
> 
> > Footnotes:
> > [1]  This law is very stupid, and I hope it will change back. I buy a
> >      DVD, I buy a DVD-ROM, but I'm not allowed to watch my DVD with
> >      mplayer.
> 
> Actually you are, if you pay the right to do so...
> 
> Matthieu
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