The common theme, however, just to tie a bow on it, is societal degeneracy. On Sep 26, 2012 10:15 PM, "Douglas Roberts" <d...@parrot-farm.net> wrote:
> I suspect that the more sensitive members of this list will think that my > last message was unnecessarily pejorative with respect to gangs, and gang > members. It would probably therefore be foolish of me to suggest including > child-abusing priests, scientologists, and more than a few of the military > industrial profiteers in the "better off dead" list. > > So I won't. > > Best to quietly just resume the scholarly discussions about "faith". > > Don't you think? > On Sep 26, 2012 10:03 PM, "Douglas Roberts" <d...@parrot-farm.net> wrote: > >> Still, irrespective of whomever coined that old "fittest" rubric, dead >> gang members are far more productive members of society than live ones, I >> suspect. >> On Sep 26, 2012 9:48 PM, "Nicholas Thompson" <nickthomp...@earthlink.net> >> wrote: >> >>> Darwinism only says that the least prolific will be eliminated. It >>> says nothing about degeneracy, unless, of course profligacy is defined as >>> “advanced.” Spencer was the social Darwinist, not Darwin. In fact, it was >>> SPENCER, who coined “the survival of the fittest”, I believe. **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> N**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *From:* friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On >>> Behalf Of *Douglas Roberts >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:03 PM >>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] faith**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Well, speaking from my own (apparent) semi-unique perspective: Darwin's >>> proposition of "Survival of the Fittest" would seem to scream out for the >>> elimination of degenerate components of society which threaten to bring the >>> entire species to total extinction.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> And, being an engineer, I cannot but cheer and encourage any activity >>> that speeds the destruction of those destructive elements of society. Like >>> gang conflicts, for example. And religion, for another. Not that there is >>> much difference, really.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> --Doug**** >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Roger Critchlow <r...@elf.org> wrote:*** >>> * >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Steve Smith <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote:** >>> ** >>> >>> Tory -**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Why is the idea of two differing but synergistic approaches so >>> challenging to so many on this list? Or are you arguing for the fun of the >>> game?**** >>> >>> I'm pretty sure both the Monkey and the Weasel are in it for the >>> endorphins released.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I don't think I'm talking about two differing approaches.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Some beliefs are so common that no one even thinks about them. Many >>> people deny that they're beliefs at all. Other beliefs extend and explain >>> and modify the common ones in different ways. But I say we're all >>> believers on this bus, some are just more conscious of it.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> -- rec --**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org**** >>> >>> >>> >>> **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> -- >>> Doug Roberts >>> drobe...@rti.org >>> d...@parrot-farm.net**** >>> >>> http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins**** >>> >>> >>> 505-455-7333 - Office >>> 505-670-8195 - Cell**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >>> >>
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