The common theme, however, just to tie a bow on it, is societal degeneracy.
On Sep 26, 2012 10:15 PM, "Douglas Roberts" <d...@parrot-farm.net> wrote:

> I suspect that the more sensitive members of this list will think that my
> last message was unnecessarily pejorative with respect to gangs, and gang
> members.  It would probably therefore be foolish of me to suggest including
> child-abusing priests, scientologists, and more than a few of the military
> industrial profiteers in the "better off dead" list.
>
> So I won't.
>
> Best to quietly just resume the scholarly discussions about "faith".
>
> Don't you think?
> On Sep 26, 2012 10:03 PM, "Douglas Roberts" <d...@parrot-farm.net> wrote:
>
>> Still, irrespective of whomever coined that old "fittest" rubric, dead
>> gang members are far more productive members of society than live ones, I
>> suspect.
>> On Sep 26, 2012 9:48 PM, "Nicholas Thompson" <nickthomp...@earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Darwinism only says that the least prolific will be eliminated.   It
>>> says nothing about degeneracy, unless, of course profligacy is defined as
>>> “advanced.”  Spencer was the social Darwinist, not Darwin.  In fact, it was
>>> SPENCER, who coined “the survival of the fittest”, I believe.  ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> N****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Douglas Roberts
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:03 PM
>>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] faith****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Well, speaking from my own (apparent) semi-unique perspective:  Darwin's
>>> proposition of "Survival of the Fittest" would seem to scream out for the
>>> elimination of degenerate components of society which threaten to bring the
>>> entire species to total extinction.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> And, being an engineer, I cannot but cheer and encourage any activity
>>> that speeds the destruction of those destructive elements of society.  Like
>>> gang conflicts, for example.  And religion, for another.  Not that there is
>>> much difference, really.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> --Doug****
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Roger Critchlow <r...@elf.org> wrote:***
>>> *
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Steve Smith <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote:**
>>> **
>>>
>>> Tory -****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Why is the idea of two differing but synergistic approaches so
>>> challenging to so many on this list? Or are you arguing for the fun of the
>>> game?****
>>>
>>> I'm pretty sure both the Monkey and the Weasel are in it for the
>>> endorphins released.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> I don't think I'm talking about two differing approaches.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Some beliefs are so common that no one even thinks about them.  Many
>>> people deny that they're beliefs at all.  Other beliefs extend and explain
>>> and modify the common ones in different ways.  But I say we're all
>>> believers on this bus, some are just more conscious of it.****
>>>
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