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On 9/26/12 10:19 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote:

The common theme, however, just to tie a bow on it, is societal degeneracy.

On Sep 26, 2012 10:15 PM, "Douglas Roberts" <d...@parrot-farm.net <mailto:d...@parrot-farm.net>> wrote:

    I suspect that the more sensitive members of this list will think
    that my last message was unnecessarily pejorative with respect to
    gangs, and gang members.  It would probably therefore be foolish
    of me to suggest including child-abusing priests, scientologists,
    and more than a few of the military industrial profiteers in the
    "better off dead" list.

    So I won't.

    Best to quietly just resume the scholarly discussions about "faith".

    Don't you think?

    On Sep 26, 2012 10:03 PM, "Douglas Roberts" <d...@parrot-farm.net
    <mailto:d...@parrot-farm.net>> wrote:

        Still, irrespective of whomever coined that old "fittest"
        rubric, dead gang members are far more productive members of
        society than live ones, I suspect.

        On Sep 26, 2012 9:48 PM, "Nicholas Thompson"
        <nickthomp...@earthlink.net
        <mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net>> wrote:

            Darwinism only says that the least prolific will be
            eliminated.  It says nothing about degeneracy, unless, of
            course profligacy is defined as "advanced." Spencer was
            the social Darwinist, not Darwin. In fact, it was SPENCER,
            who coined "the survival of the fittest", I believe.

            N

            *From:*friam-boun...@redfish.com
            <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>
            [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com
            <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>] *On Behalf Of *Douglas
            Roberts
            *Sent:* Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:03 PM
            *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
            *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] faith

            Well, speaking from my own (apparent) semi-unique
            perspective:  Darwin's proposition of "Survival of the
            Fittest" would seem to scream out for the elimination of
            degenerate components of society which threaten to bring
            the entire species to total extinction.

            And, being an engineer, I cannot but cheer and encourage
            any activity that speeds the destruction of those
            destructive elements of society.  Like gang conflicts, for
            example.  And religion, for another.  Not that there is
            much difference, really.

            --Doug

            On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Roger Critchlow
            <r...@elf.org <mailto:r...@elf.org>> wrote:

            On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Steve Smith
            <sasm...@swcp.com <mailto:sasm...@swcp.com>> wrote:

            Tory -

                Why is the idea of two differing but synergistic
                approaches so challenging to so many on this list? Or
                are you arguing for the fun of the game?

            I'm pretty sure both the Monkey and the Weasel are in it
            for the endorphins released.

            I don't think I'm talking about two differing approaches.

            Some beliefs are so common that no one even thinks about
            them.  Many people deny that they're beliefs at all.
             Other beliefs extend and explain and modify the common
            ones in different ways.  But I say we're all believers on
            this bus, some are just more conscious of it.

            -- rec --


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