Sarbajit, I stand corrected. I had always thought that the issue was the illusion of separateness. So what is sauce for the goose (i.e., "me") would be sauce for the gander [i.e., "you"). If I am not separate from you, surely you are not separate from me.
But I had best stay out of this one, because I haven't the energy right now to read the eastern texts, and asking you to explain things to me when you have already made clarifying texts available is unfair. Anyway, thanks for the correction. Nick -----Original Message----- From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 11:12 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] attachment Oh dear me, Perhaps the simple online version of the Gita I chose was too advanced. I thought it was clear from 2.71 that it refers to "ONE who ..becomes .... free from I or my ... " "You"ness on the other hand is perfectly OK. Lets see an online Kiddies version of the Mahabharatha (the long epic of which the Gita is a tiny part) http://www.indolink.com/Kidz/Stories/mahabharat11.html The entire Gita is reduced to this para "Krishna said, "Arjuna, may it be known to you that man's duty lies in performing the duty while the results should be left to God. To oppress others is a sin but to tolerate oppression is a far bigger sin. All those, whom you claim to be your relatives are none but individual souls, unrelated to you, on way to their ultimate destination of uniting with the supreme Lord, the Brahman. Pick up your weapon and fight that is what is ordained to you. Do not think of the consequences." Note the delicious "you"ness which permeates the Gita Sarbajit On 10/2/12, Nicholas Thompson <nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote: > But surely, Sarbarjit, your post is contaminated with the illusion of > YOU-ness. As long as you are detached from him, you cannot propound > anything ...... etc., right? You will never attain peace as long as > you see Russ as a YOU. > > Right? > > N > > -----Original Message----- > From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On > Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 12:13 AM > To: russ.abb...@gmail.com; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity > Coffee Group > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] attachment > > Your post is contaminated/deluded by the repeated use of "I". As long > as "you" are "attached" to your "I"-ness you cannot propound anything > valid beyond the delusion of your "self". > > http://www.ourpathtogod.com/bhagavadgita/chapter2.html > > "One who abandons all desires, and becomes free from longing and the > feeling of 'I' and 'my', attains peace. (2.71) O Arjuna, this is the > super-conscious state of mind. Attaining this state, one is no longer > deluded. Gaining this state, even at the end of one's life, a person > becomes one with the Absolute. (2.72)." > > Sarbajit > > On 10/2/12, Russ Abbott <russ.abb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I liked my post on attachment. (Perhaps I'm attached to it.) Did it >> get lost? I don't see it in any of the follow-up posts. Here it is >> again. >> >> Think of attachment as: I must ensure that X comes to pass. I want it >> so badly. >> Think of detachment as: I must not want so badly that X comes to pass. >> I must stay detached. >> Think of non-attachment as: I may participate in the process whereby >> X comes to pass -- or doesn't come to pass. If I participate I may be >> fully engaged. I may care very much whether X comes to pass. It it >> does, I may feel very happy. If it doesn't I may feel very sad. But >> whether or not X comes to pass I still have my laundry to do. >> >> >> *-- Russ Abbott* >> *_____________________________________________* >> *** Professor, Computer Science* >> * California State University, Los Angeles* >> >> * My paper on how the Fed can fix the economy: >> ssrn.com/abstract=1977688* >> * Google voice: 747-*999-5105 >> Google+: plus.google.com/114865618166480775623/ >> * vita: *sites.google.com/site/russabbott/ >> CS Wiki <http://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/> and the courses I teach >> *_____________________________________________* >> > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe > at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at > http://www.friam.org > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe > at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at > http://www.friam.org > ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
